more PCT help

Hey guys I've decided to start a 10wk test enanthate cycle front loading with d-bol for 4 weeks. the dosages will be 30mg/day d-bol, and 300mg/wk testen.
for my pct I have pregnyl, Letrozole, Nolvadex, Clenbuterol and tribulus.
my question (to anyone not too sick and tired of all the PCT questions lol) is how exactly to structure these compounds into my pct?
Netro I know you can help me out

pregynl for 3 weeks at 1500iu's a week 2 weeks after your last shot. nolvadex for 30days 14 days after your last shot. tribulis from the day of your last shot.

djeasye wrote:

pregynl for 3 weeks at 1500iu's a week 2 weeks after your last shot. nolvadex for 30days 14 days after your last shot. tribulis from the day of your last shot.

Jayman, that means you pin Pregnyl 3 times a week at 500iU per shot and you repeat for 3 weeks.

much appreciated guys and what about the letrozole?

hrm, 500iu ? That normall is maintenance for me during a cycle, if I don't use it during a cycle I use 1500ui every 3rd day, mon, wed, fri... thats it...

I'd be very very careful with hcg dosages especially now that new research shows that it actually causes permanent side effects.

so then what would be a safe yet effective dosage Lesa? also anyone wanting to add their opinion on the letro?

@Lesa, permanent side effects such as and who did the new research?

permanent sides like damaging your testies and becoming infertile. Prolonged use or High dosages can easily cause testies desensitation. I hope you didnt think HCG is harmless now did you? Oh yea i know a guy from the gym who is on permanent HRT now cause of HCG. 10 years ago he was hitting like 5000 IU 2 times per week for PCT and his nuts never recovered.

Ok Lesa, but these extreme cases we know about. Whats your take on what Doctari suggests for PCT and maintanance throughout a cycle? 250-500iu/week maintanance? I found 500iu slightly weak on my Deca/EQ/TestEn so upped it to 700iu/week which is working nicely.

Like with AAS it is individually based and also depends on compound used.
19-Nors will need more and testoterone less, how much is up to the individual to judge as you know your body best.

Go for a sperm count before and after cycle to make sure your swimmers are good and swimming.
Blood panel if you really want to go full tilt.

:banghead can nobody give me general guidelines here?

Bro, you were told to read Doc's PCT protocol ....
300-5--iU 2 - 3 times p/week as maintenance

PCT, would go 500 - 1000iU 2 - 3 x p/week

NOTE: General guidelines, course and individual dependent

Hi my question has been deleted cos i am an idiot for not reading the rules....
from now on if i have stupid questions i will not ask them on the forum... and now i will email admin to apologise and ask him if he can help u out...

Much aprreciated.

Eish! My hit rate on this forum isnt good... Im sorry again :blush:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Ok Lesa, but these extreme cases we know about. Whats your take on what Doctari suggests for PCT and maintanance throughout a cycle? 250-500iu/week maintanance? I found 500iu slightly weak on my Deca/EQ/TestEn so upped it to 700iu/week which is working nicely.

Doctaris maintenance dose seems to me the most resonable way of using HCG and 700 iu is not much either since deca is in game, i was just making a point because long time ago ppl used to shoot 5000 IU.Obviously now ppl know what the sides are and what dosags are good and what are risky and dangerous.

Lesa wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Ok Lesa, but these extreme cases we know about. Whats your take on what Doctari suggests for PCT and maintanance throughout a cycle? 250-500iu/week maintanance? I found 500iu slightly weak on my Deca/EQ/TestEn so upped it to 700iu/week which is working nicely.

Doctaris maintenance dose seems to me the most resonable way of using HCG and 700 iu is not much either since deca is in game, i was just making a point because long time ago ppl used to shoot 5000 IU.Obviously now ppl know what the sides are and what dosags are good and what are risky and dangerous.

Absolutely correct IMO Lesa.

5000 IU's is very old school and has often led to problems.

Lower doses throughout the cycle as maintenance seems to be the preferred method world wide.

I believe 1000ui is to little and a dose of 1500 / 3000 i.u be used every 3/5 days for 2/3 weeks for PCT.... 500 i.u does nothing for me...... i have experienced with different doses and I find the number i said above works best for me.... as netro said NOTE: General guidelines, course and individual dependent ... for me I require higher doses... im just very sensative to AAS sides in allot of ways...

00pump wrote:

I believe 1000ui is to little and a dose of 1500 / 3000 i.u be used every 3/5 days for 2/3 weeks for PCT.... 500 i.u does nothing for me...... i have experienced with different doses and I find the number i said above works best for me.... as netro said NOTE: General guidelines, course and individual dependent ... for me I require higher doses... im just very sensative to AAS sides in allot of ways...

Did you use the HCG DURING the cycle as well? Or just PCT?

The doses at the END of a cycle are going to be very different to those used DURING the cycle as maintenance.

Lesa wrote:

permanent sides like damaging your testies and becoming infertile. Prolonged use or High dosages can easily cause testies desensitation. I hope you didnt think HCG is harmless now did you? Oh yea i know a guy from the gym who is on permanent HRT now cause of HCG. 10 years ago he was hitting like 5000 IU 2 times per week for PCT and his nuts never recovered.

This has been noted for quite some time now, dont abuse it don't take longer than 2/3 weeks without at least a month break..

00pump wrote:

I believe 1000ui is to little and a dose of 1500 / 3000 i.u be used every 3/5 days for 2/3 weeks for PCT.... 500 i.u does nothing for me...... i have experienced with different doses and I find the number i said above works best for me.... as netro said NOTE: General guidelines, course and individual dependent ... for me I require higher doses... im just very sensative to AAS sides in allot of ways...

Many still argue over if HCG should be used during or after cycles. Most of the sites and pros are advising on maintenance dosage nowdays.Truth be told HCG post cycle is old school. But maintenance dose makes more sense to me than actually waiting for your nuts to shrink completely and then try to get em going during PCT. Since you are already hitting kessar/clomid during PCT it makes more sense to me to use small dosages of hcg from middle or towards the end of the cycle until you reach PCT. The way i see it is that if you are already using kessar/clomid in PCT and you add high dosages of HCG you might end up desentising your testies and having even more problems.But dosage of 3000 IU pump is in a risky category. For someone who is just starting out to play around with HCG better start of small and see how it works for you then just shooting for something that is a potential risk.

Yep,
High doses and prolonged usage of HCG can have much the same effect.