very sore muscle

andre300
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09 Sep 2009 14:06 #22213 by andre300

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Guys, im starting my PCT on Sat. Is it normal for the muscles to be sore once test starts to loose effect.Or maybe its just my imagination, but the last 3 days after doingback,chest and arms, i feel like you normally feel just after geting back into gym after a long stint away

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Sting
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09 Sep 2009 14:22 #22217 by Sting

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If your test levels are dropping then muscle repaire duration is reduced which is why you are getting muscle pains. Part of it may also be in your mind because mentally you are aware that coming off cycle is gonna result in muscle pains

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andre300
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09 Sep 2009 14:32 #22221 by andre300

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Dont think its in my mind, but my thought were heading in the direction that the decrease in test is to blame, but thanks B for just confirming what i thought.

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Sting
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09 Sep 2009 14:36 #22222 by Sting

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Is it just one isolated muscle or are all your muscles sore? Coming off test and pushing the same amount of weight as you were while on test may have caused you to injure yourself

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andre300
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09 Sep 2009 14:47 #22223 by andre300

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Dont think its injury related, just feels like i worked muscle very hard overall.This was my 1st cycle and im gonna struggle if i loose too much strength. Must say its very addictive, i sommer started askikng about bridging with GH,LOL.

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Sting
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09 Sep 2009 14:58 #22226 by Sting

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Yep addictive is the right word, thats how women end up looking like men, they get addicted. If you can maintain as much muscle as possible and stick to the same weights you shouldn't lose too much strength, just ensure your muscles get enough rest and nutrients

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Inja
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09 Sep 2009 22:58 #22278 by Inja

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It's important to push as hard as you can coming off cycle to maintain muscle stres stimulous and thus tell your body it needs to hold onto its gains. However this is the one time when you really need to listen to your body, because this is when your most prone to overtraining and injury! Be careful bro

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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acidkidsa
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10 Sep 2009 07:52 #22297 by acidkidsa

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My muscles start hurting if I have been training hard for a few months without taking a week off.

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00pump
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10 Sep 2009 07:58 #22299 by 00pump

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Yup and as Inja said, you need to push, but at the same time you need to rest... this is the time to make sure you not going to party on the weekend and make sure you sleep 9 hours at night and you have sufficient ammounts of protein... you are very prone at this point to over training / getting sick and losing all gains...

eat healthy dude....

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Lesa
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10 Sep 2009 12:24 #22329 by Lesa

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00pump wrote:

Yup and as Inja said, you need to push, but at the same time you need to rest... this is the time to make sure you not going to party on the weekend and make sure you sleep 9 hours at night and you have sufficient ammounts of protein... you are very prone at this point to over training / getting sick and losing all gains...

eat healthy dude....

This is very very true. You are now looking good dont ruin it by the weekend partying. Dont smoke dont drink dont do any party drugs (if you do any of that) because you can very easily waste all your effort. SOme guys recommend to push hard but some people recommend to push less with more rest and less intensity. I have even read on some other BB sites where people take a week off training during their PCT.

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missiondh
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10 Sep 2009 13:41 #22345 by missiondh

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I have even read on some other BB sites where people take a week off training during their PCT.[/quote]

I have done this and lost 3kg's muscle so on my next cycle I am going to train harder as you suggest during PCT and give this a try.

"The best activities for your health are pumping and humping."

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Inja
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10 Sep 2009 23:43 #22423 by Inja

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Sorry to hear it mission. Hope you still retained some quality mass...

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Lesa
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11 Sep 2009 02:12 #22432 by Lesa

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missiondh wrote:

I have even read on some other BB sites where people take a week off training during their PCT.

I have done this and lost 3kg's muscle so on my next cycle I am going to train harder as you suggest during PCT and give this a try.

[/quote]

You must have had some serious water then

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00pump
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11 Sep 2009 07:45 #22437 by 00pump

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yes, remeber one thing you can keep 'all gains' that doesn't mean you will keep 'all weight' so that 3kgs could have been lost even if you carried on training... it could have as Lesa said been allot of water that you lost...

thats why allot of people do their creating loading during their PCT...

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andre300
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11 Sep 2009 08:33 #22443 by andre300

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Im starting with PCT tomorrow and finishing of my winny today. Started creatine loading in the week.
I am not very bloated so maybe theres not too much water to loose. Must be very honest in saying that i am allready planning my next cycle. I have allready pulled up a chart to count down thedays.LOL
I think i have posted this before, but as a matter of interst here it is again.

Start:
109kg BF% 18-20

End:
116 BF% 10-12

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00pump
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11 Sep 2009 09:05 #22454 by 00pump

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Very good going man

Look at starting a cycle around Feb next year... i'm also going to finish soon and then i'll do the same... the longer the break the better your gains will be next cycle as your receptors will be fresh...

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andre300
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11 Sep 2009 09:23 #22463 by andre300

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I am also starting clen with PCT. I have read that this helps with maintaining, but in your expert opinions, will clen help solidify my gains?

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00pump
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11 Sep 2009 09:41 #22465 by 00pump

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it will help keep you anabolic while your natrual test levels get back in shape so 2 weeks on clen should really help... ill be doing the same, but low dose of clen as I have issues with my heart and blood pressure and and and.... lol

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missiondh
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11 Sep 2009 10:37 #22476 by missiondh

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Well I lost the 3kg's during PCT and then putt 2kg's back on after PCT.

I kept most of my gains, gained 8kg's then dropped 3 and gained 2 back. So all in all happy.

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Cirus
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12 Sep 2009 12:35 #22521 by Cirus

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Beesting wrote:

If your test levels are dropping then muscle repaire duration is reduced

If your test lvls drop, then your muscles need more time to recover?
Is that what you ment with that line?

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Sting
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12 Sep 2009 13:12 #22526 by Sting

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Yes that's what I meant. The reason you grow so quickly on gear is because of the increased test levels and hence increased muscle recovery time.

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