PCT for test-ent/deca/anabol cycle

hi guys
please help for pct for this cycle

W1 TEST(ENT)250MG DECCA200MG ANABOL 15MG PER DAY

W2 TEST(ENT)250MG DECCA200MG ANABOL 25MG PER DAY

W3 TEST(ENT)250MG DECCA200MG X2(MON&FRI)ANABOL40MG PER DAY

W4 TEST(ENT)250MG DECCA200MG X2(MON&FRI)ANABOL 50MG PER DAY

W5 TEST(ENT)250MG DECCA200MG X2(MON&FRI)ANABOL 50MG PER DAY

W6 TEST(ENT)250MG DECCA200MG X2(MON&FRI)ANABOL 40MG PER DAY

W7 TEST(ENT)250MG DECCA200MG ANABOL 25MG PER DAY

W8 TEST(ENT)250MG DECCA200MG ANABOL 15MG PER DAY

WANT TO RUN 20MG NOVA EVERYDAY UNTIL END OF CYCLE.

PLEASE ASSIST!

Ha ha ok first off please post up your goals u wanna achieve off this cycle and some stats:

Dont rate you should run d-bol for the whole time and at those strange dosages rather front load with it at +-40mg per day for the first 2-3 weeks.

Then onto your deca, keep it at 400mg per week split into 2 shots from beggining to end of your cycle (week 1-.

Ur test dosage should be fine, personally never use or recomend enanthate but people get good results. Also run it continuosly tho, 500mg per week split into 2 shots from beggining to end (week 1-.

Letro all the way as far as an AI goes run it at .25mg every day taper off during week 9 and 10.

Some people choose to run hcg throughout deca cycles in particular, 250iu 2x per week, week 3-9 as maintanence and then maybe bump up to 1000iu twice during week 10.

Start your kessar/nolva midway through week 10 while still on the tapering dose of letro to prevent rebound and continue for 4 weeks at 20mg per day.

Hope this helps:
Peace

And as far as that hcg goes just feel it out: Iam talking from personal experience and people i have dealt with, very broad views everwhere and you cant be too carefull with deca.
You should be fine with what i put up, maybe that bump up to 1000iu can be extended for another week. So 1000iu twice per week, week 10 & 11.
Best is to just see how your balls and body feel/ respond.
Peace.

thanks for the advice so far!

My weight is 80kg b/f 15-13%, age 27 and lookin to bulk up. This is my first injectable cycle only did 2 an oral d/bol cycles before same system as adove was impressed wit the gains this cycle posted above is from the laymans guide to steriods 2. Followin a good diet(cala countin) will also be runin clen and t4 during my cycle.

So the higher dosages u suggested will still b fine for me.
Could u also shead some ligth on hcg, how to mix the stuff, storage, how long it last for and how to inject.
thanks again!

Ok lets see now: I rate u drop your deca and test dose by 100mg each just to be safe but run it constant not pyramid up and down- so test 400mg per week split in 2 and deca 300mg per week slit in 2.
You can run them at the higher doses during your d-bol if you want but I woul keep them at above mentioned therafter.

Its a broad topic as far as storage goes keep it in the fridge at all times and what works best for me at least is mixing a vial with 5000iu and 5ml of the solution and drawing when I require. Mixing smaller doses at a time is better: go chek some vids on youtube mixing 5000iu hcg the one with the skinny dude in is the best way will post the link later if you can't find it:

Yea and the t3 clen will be ok, run them through PCT aswel ok. Remember that letro is crucial througout and tapering correctly as I reccomended keeps the cycle safe, makes you look better very essential.

Sorry in a rush if you ned any more insight post again and I will gladly help:
peace

Mr Moose do you recommend starting the letro before the anabolics or at the same time?
And was it effective in keeping bloat down on your cycle?

Thank u Great Moose

So everything u suggested stays the same accept for dosage of deca and test? Mr moose the test ent comes in 250mg/1ml so can use 500mg instead of 400mg a week? Can I use proviron instead of nolva. So I will need two boxes of hcg5000 how and where do u inject the stuff I know that u use an Insulin needle. Is then anything else to remember while on cycle maybe sum problems u had.

cool!

You inject hcg subcutaneously by your stomach region at least 5cm away from your belly button, same place as where you would inject insulin. Take first shot on left or right side and next shot on opposite side so you dont inject into scar tissue

Yea u gotta start it 2 weeks before your cycle so it can stabalize in your blood at the dose you are gonna run throughout. Mostly .25mg per day - .5mg per day.

No experience on the LP letro wich is what a lot of the guys on this site seem to obtain but have used the femara tablets to great effect: zero bloat, zero estrogen sides, almost no sides on libido (once I started my test).

Actually started the LP letro about 2 weeks ago starting my cycle on wednesday: Noticed no libido signs yet, which I did notice with the femara pre cycle last time? Guessing the femara might be better quality then, or the letro has become less effective in my body as dose is identical but wll see how it goes:

Peace

Let me put it this way you can inject it into your brain (no don't do that) it makes no difference, onces its in your body its in your body....... try injecting HCG into your toe, it will do the same thing...

Yea ur test will be 100% at the higher dose was the deca I was more worried about. Make sure you have the letro though:

To be honest Use the kessar dude least sides and for me no.1 PCT priority and I can say from first hand experience coming off test and letro that the kessar does the trick.

Anytime! Peace

the d/bol and pct stays the same?

Letro is great for PCT too, it will raise natrual test levels.... just make sure you taking a very low dose so it doesn't effect your libido...

also remeber that adding the kessar will lower the plazma levels of the letro... so 0.25 could work for PCT with the kessar....

Yea PCT stays the same with the d-bol remember to only front load with it hey max 3 weeks: In my opinion that's all its good for. 40mg per day has gotten good reports for your weight will be good:

250iu = how many ml on the syringe and when mixin hcg doe it come wit the empty vial if not wer do u get one from does hcg box come wit instructions on mixin it?

Dont want to confuse anyone but i was told not to use nolva for my PCT while on deca...im just a lil confused here. :dry:

yugen wrote:

250iu = how many ml on the syringe and when mixin hcg doe it come wit the empty vial if not wer do u get one from does hcg box come wit instructions on mixin it?

Heres a pretty good discription of how to take it - www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum?func=view&catid=5&id=19154

yugen wrote:

250iu = how many ml on the syringe and when mixin hcg doe it come wit the empty vial if not wer do u get one from does hcg box come wit instructions on mixin it?

Depends. If you've got the LP HCG then you'll have one vial which has the powder and one 2ml SABAX water amp. Draw the water into a normal syringe with needle. Tilt the vial so it's a bit sideways. Inject the water against the glass side of the vial slowly and let it run down into the powder. Don't squirt it directly onto the powder. Once all the water is in swirl it a bit, do not shake the vial.

Now you've got 5000IU in 2ml water. So that's 2500IU in 1ml.

If you want to draw 500IU then that's 2500IU/500IU = 5
1ml = 100IU (on Insulin syringe)
100IU/5 = 20
So the amount to draw is 20IU on the Insulin syringe when injecting.

Hope this helps

So 10IU on the Insulin syringe will cover me for my 250iu hcg that Mr moose suggested in pct for me? also how much sabex water would u mix the hcg wit for my pct?

Snok the reason from what i gather that people smash the use of Nolva after deca is because it is not sufficient to get you back on track. If the half life is followed correclty and you are using HCG and a higher test dose and providing you start your PcT at the correct time Nolva is 100%.

Yugen Milktuds advice is spot on, people mix their own amounts of water with HCG doses often 1ml per 1000iu. That is how i do it, havent got time for equations involving x so therfore 5000iu in 5ml will mean 1ml is 1000iu, therefore .25ml is 250iu. Simple enough??

Peace

@ Alces alces and SNOKie
Actually the reason people say you should take clomid instead of tamoxifen with Deca is because Deca is a progestin and there are papers on the net showing that estrogen blocking (using tamoxifen as the drug to achieve this) upregulates progesterone expression. These people are worried Deca + tamoxifen will cause gyno. However, since clomiphene and tamoxifen have almost identical SERM like activity, and since this upregulation of progesterone receptors is actually due to the effect of these SERM's on estrogen levels, there is no reason why clomiphene would not have this same activity. However, since progesterone receptors are actually downregulated during a Deca cycle this effect is minimal. In addition both these SERMs bind and block activity in estrogen receptors in the breast. So the directly prevent gynecomastia.

On top of all this information, tamoxifen is much more potent a drug than clomiphene, and thus should be the SERM of choice between these two for any PCT protocol.

Guys do u think it would be a bad idea to add winny 50mg shot to my cycle over the last 4 weeks or stick to the bulk cycle only?
Thanks for the help so far!!!

Inja is on some other level of biology! Ha Ha well said: and as i said tamoxifen/kessar works hundreds with that cycle.
Yea winnie is good stuff, if you can afford it though Var will be a safer, less painful obviously (orals), and in my opinion better. Took a winnie injection once never again! Using orals of both winnie and Var at the end of my current cycle with appropriate liver protectors: last 6 weeks var, last 2+- weeks winnie. Just to harden me up maybe throw on an extra kg. Winnie orals are not advised though very toxic, but feel it out. Var, winnie orals or injections or var and winnie will all do a great job!
Peace

Mr Moose
I promise last question got sum nomad stanzol(50mg/20ml) wer can i fit it in my cycle and how many shots a week for how long?

Sorry for late reply:
Ha ha ask as many questions as you want bru, here to help- feel free to throw some karma though;) ha ha:
I warned you about the pain and Var being better, but you will still get good results, take a 50mg shot for the last 2-3 weeks every day: From people I deal with shots are less painfull when by themselves so don't mix with anything, (less is best)-
Good luck they hurt like shit and I use prop for 10 weeks at a time without squeeling so... ha ha Var is best. But if you got it, go for it.
Peace