Suppressing Cortisol

What is the best way to suppress this catabolic hormone on cycle to maximise the duration of gains?

And after cycle to retain muscle?

Usually add winny oral at .2mg per kg bodyweight in the last few weeks of a cycle, this will help skew the cortisol and make gains better in the last few weeks. Clen will keep you anabolic and help solidify gains and can be added to your PCT regime, use ketotifin and keep the recptors up and no need to cycle. I know some of the other guys have some other tricks, so let's see what they come up with.

dude just a question, u recommend taking clen at 120mcg with ketofin and not using eca at the same time coz the clen is amplified by the ketofin, now what if u drop the dosage to say 80mcg's and use ketofin and take your eca as your pre work out boost,or is this a no no in your opinion...


sorry totally off the topic but i needed to bring it up

Netro is so right about Winny at the end of the cycle not only does it help curb cortisol but also at this time (end of cycle) Winny can help harden or keep you hard as you go into PCT and thats where Clen can help during PCT (although not at too higher dosages as this can be a little muscle wasting)not only by curbing cortisol but also by helping to control bodyfat!for eg. after a long (12week +)Equi-test cycle you will have developed a healthy appetite and have needed more calories while 'on' and we tend to carry on eating like this post cycle and clen can help keep you leaner during this period.I'm not a believer in using any steroids as a'bridge' between cycles but from personal experience I can tell you that using HGH during PCT(and after) has helped me hang on to gains better than any other product I have tried(Except for IGF and I think we will have to wait till after the Olympics to get any legit IGF again -I actually made gains during PCT using IGF )

@ Djeasye, Bro, I would not risk it hey. You only have one heart and to have a heart attack is just not worth the risk. I tend to go for the more conservative approach, but there are many alternatives to boost your workout. Ephadrine is only one of them. Don't get dependant on compounds and end up not enjoying your training cause you have not taken something before, not that you are, but I am sure you see where I am going with this.

Agree with Netro on this one.

I was a wild willy who didn't know enough.... I ran Clen, ECA and T3 at the same time.... Eishoooo.... Neva do that shit again!!! Well, not at the same time...

Guess you have to burn your fingers before you learn... So from my previous experience.... Aikona..!!!

conan if i read and understand ur post corectly, the it loooks like ur saying that clen waste muscle in high 120mcg..?? dosages

but all time i have been learning bout these "sups" (lol) ive learnd that they spare, if not can even gain muscle on this??
and it makes u stronger due to the muscles contracting harder??
or what would u say??

im doing 15 weeks of 120mcg clen and 3mg ketotifen a day, juz to burn some fat atm.
but i dont wana lose muscle!

How does the winny curb cortisol?
Will proviron do the same?

Winny oral lowers SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin) and this means less for your test to bind to and more test available to build muscle with. That's why I advise a low dose of 0.2mg per kg body weight and this would lower SHBG by around 50% and thus more free test for our bodies to play with. This also allows your cycle to be more effective towards the end as most of the time your gains are made in the first half of your cycle and taper off towards the end. This only works with the oral as SHBG is produced in the liver and that's why the oral is effective as it passes through the liver. Winny is also a DHT derivative and known to have anti-estrogenic properties and as well anti-progestenic and thus could be used with your nandrolones to combat those sides.

Hope this covers the question.

As far as Clen is concerned it is a great fat burner and animal studies have shown it to exhibit anabolic activity But what was pointed out by a review published in the August 1995 issue of Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise ,the possible anabolic activity in humans is very questionable ,and based largely on animal studies and the debate still rages today (studies were done on cattle we are very different to cattle!).
What I am saying is that clen is a fat burner(and one of the most potent) and can help with PCT but using it only for its anabolic properties will not be that effective a choice ,here in your case though using clen for fat loss is a corrrect choice.