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19 Nov 2009 16:09 #29351 by Inja
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As long as you on cycle (test) I think its a requirement. Don't want a blowup fish for a prostate...

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Its just my point of view

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22 Nov 2009 13:25 #29531 by dirkgreeff
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Ive got a mate in a similar position, although his is from using NNP (esentially Deca if im not mistaken). Been pretty much flat for the last 2-years i think but same symptoms so will point him to this thread maybe something good can come of it.

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29 Nov 2009 10:05 #30214 by dirkgreeff
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Boys does noboddy have something else to say here?

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29 Nov 2009 11:05 #30216 by Yohimbe
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dirkgreeff wrote:

Ive got a mate in a similar position, although his is from using NNP (esentially Deca if im not mistaken). Been pretty much flat for the last 2-years i think but same symptoms so will point him to this thread maybe something good can come of it.


Deca is harsh on recovery. Has he tried HCG and nolva to get things kickstarted?

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29 Nov 2009 13:09 #30219 by Inja
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With Deca it's often a case of doing an extended or additional PCT to get things going again.
Best bet though is to get blood work on sex hormones and figure out the problem and what its nature...
Also he can try perpetual forced masturbation once a day. Sex, arousal, and ejaculation do actually help with raising testosterone post cycle...

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03 Jun 2010 18:56 #45771 by Shakes
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I am suffering from the same persistant side effects of finasteride as Mr Palmer 1 year after quitting fin. I have recently gone for SCIO treatment to help determine what is wrong with me. The machine was surprisingly accurate and highlighted certain nutritional deficencies such as low vitamin D, low vitamin B12, low omega 3 and 6 levels. I am now on supplements to correct these deficencies. So far I have had no improvement in my libido although my stress levels are down and my mood is better. I would like to get into contact with Mr Palmer to discuss this problem. There is a much better chance of figuring this out if we work together. Could somebody please give me Mr Palmer's email address so that I could get in contact with him? Alternatively Mr Palmer, you can email me at gregory8TEMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED

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03 Jun 2010 20:23 #45774 by acidkidsa
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I will mention your reply to him.

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03 Jun 2010 21:19 #45776 by Yohimbe
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acidkidsa wrote:

I will mention your reply to him.


:P :P :P

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07 Jun 2010 12:52 #45890 by Saizen
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guys seriously, check out the SCIO...if you need contact details lemme know.

It will solve the cause, not the symptoms that traditional doctors overlook.

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07 Jun 2010 12:56 #45891 by 00pump
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hehe, I went on that awhile ago... was pretty weird.. but yes it does work.

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07 Jun 2010 14:17 #45892 by Frikkie
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00pump wrote:

hehe, I went on that awhile ago... was pretty weird.. but yes it does work.


pump is their anything on earth you havent used??? :laugh:

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07 Jun 2010 14:23 #45893 by North_Boy1
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Frikkie wrote:

00pump wrote:

hehe, I went on that awhile ago... was pretty weird.. but yes it does work.


pump is their anything on earth you havent used??? :laugh:


Yes, your sister (I think) :haha

If everybody does it, is it still cheating?

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07 Jun 2010 14:32 #45894 by 00pump
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BWHAHAHHAHA

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08 Jun 2010 03:05 #45903 by mr_palmer
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Im currently working with a naturapath who is trying to resolve any nutritional deficiencies. So far we know I am low on zinc which I know is responsible for testosterone production. I may also be low on the neurotransmitter dopamine.

I have been taking zinc for around 3 months now with no success. I am currently taking Dopamine pre-cursors.

Next we will look more closely into Vitamin D and Iodine. Although i am already taking both as a precaution.

It would be interesting to know if anyone else has recovered from Finasteride induced problems using SCIO.

Also is SCIO available worldwide?

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08 Jun 2010 08:33 #45907 by 00pump
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Mr Palmer

A hormone imbalance takes time, you on the right track (I wouldn't go the chemical route this time) as you just get a negative effect from something else.

What is your test levels on paper (correct?) I notice my test levels are perfect on paper yet i have no libido. You need to work out where the issue is. I know sometimes issues come in where the muscle around the prostrate is tense an a alpha blocker can help in this regards which will help you maintaine a woody :)

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08 Jun 2010 08:36 #45910 by 00pump
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PS I found doc's PCT is really working for me, in YEARS I have had no libido on cycle or off... I'm talking no libido on 900mg + of test... Now i'm waking up in the night and have a woody, sheesh makes me feel like i'm a teenager again.

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08 Jun 2010 08:46 #45912 by mr_palmer
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My free T was below the bottom of the range before I started TRT. I have recently found out that I may have been using too smaller dose with the T. Since doubling the dose to what is considered "normal TRT" I am getting wood early in the morning and its getting stronger each day. Still no libido but its only been about a week and a half.

Also I beleive I was driving my E too low with Arimidex. I mistook low T for High E and drove it too low - I think.

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08 Jun 2010 08:53 #45915 by 00pump
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Yup similar problem with me with (Letro) that stuff really can screw you up properly...

My issue is I have the slighest Estrogen increase and get gyno, so I have no choice. So what I need to do is just find a balance, extend my PCT till I get my libido back.

Products like HCG / Clomid / Nolva can at times increase Libido and other times supress it, so I want to make sure my PCT is complete then move away from them.

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08 Jun 2010 12:26 #45923 by Saizen
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mr_palmer wrote:

Im currently working with a naturapath who is trying to resolve any nutritional deficiencies. So far we know I am low on zinc which I know is responsible for testosterone production. I may also be low on the neurotransmitter dopamine.

I have been taking zinc for around 3 months now with no success. I am currently taking Dopamine pre-cursors.

Next we will look more closely into Vitamin D and Iodine. Although i am already taking both as a precaution.

It would be interesting to know if anyone else has recovered from Finasteride induced problems using SCIO.

Also is SCIO available worldwide?


Yes, SCIO is available worldwide, but you need to see a SCIO consultant the first time you go. It works really really well, I would suggest you go see them. If you need a consultants number, lemme know.

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08 Jun 2010 13:09 #45925 by Netro
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I had a look on their website, sounds interesting.

What is the going rate for these?

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08 Jun 2010 13:26 #45930 by 00pump
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They have a system in Rivonia, you don't pay for consultation, however they give you a script for what you need and you buy it at their pharmacy. The nice thing is the script you can claim back from Medical Aid (well I can seeing i'm on discovery and I get X ammount of natrual medicine for free)

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08 Jun 2010 13:35 #45931 by 00pump
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Guys i'm still convinced a proper PCT can resolve this... If you read that article I pasted under general on Clomid, even for fertility it can takes months before you have any sperm cells and what you have is shooting blanks... I'm over stocked with this PCT, I still have 7 days left. Once finished i'm going to run clomid on it's own for another week. I'm doing a proper power PCT...

Please note what doc said in his article this is 'minimum PCT' required.

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08 Jun 2010 15:06 #45935 by Netro
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Was thinking more in the lines of general well-being. Not for fertility treatment.

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08 Jun 2010 16:02 #45938 by Saizen
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Netro wrote:

I had a look on their website, sounds interesting.

What is the going rate for these?


Netro, the going rate is about R400-R500 per session, your first one is 2 hours long. Even if you are in London and the practitioner is in JHB, they can work on you remotely.

This really is cutting edge technology, no medicine required etc etc...hence the guy that designed the software has absconded to Hungary. Death threats against him from the major Pharma companies sent him into hiding.

This technology is really amazing and its based on pure physics and energy vibrations.

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08 Jun 2010 16:04 #45939 by Netro
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Shot bud, worth a look hey.

If I am not around, then you know something went wrong .... LOL

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