Proviron + PCT

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02 Feb 2010 16:12 #34991 by Dukkes
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Hey mense

Whats your views on using Proviron with PCT like nolva(kessar)?

say Proviron 25mg/ed + 20mg Kessar e/d for about 3weeks?

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02 Feb 2010 16:21 #34992 by Empire
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dont run proviron during your pct,if u are trying to drop water the kessar will do the job,what is your cycle and are u only using kessar as pct? if u are using long esters u have got 14days before u start your pct after your last injection,use winstrol 30-50mg and proviron at 50mg every day and after 14 days then start your pct without proviron...

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02 Feb 2010 19:20 #35004 by Yohimbe
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Bump DJ-proviron is a steroid and will cause some sort of suppression-however mild-and with your system already being down this can prolong recovery

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03 Feb 2010 15:51 #35073 by Dukkes
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I FOUND THIS ARTICLE FROM A WEBSITE - (NOT MY OWN PERSONAL THEORY)

"You should be aware that Proviron is also an estrogen antagonist which prevents the aromatization of steroids. Unlike the antiestrogen Nolvadex which only blocks the estrogen receptors (see Nolvadex) Proviron already prevents the aromatizing of steroids. Therefore gynecomastia and increased water retention are successfully blocked. Since Proviron strongly suppresses the forming of estrogens no re-bound effect occurs after discontinuation of use of the compound as is the case with, for example, Nolvadex where an aromatization of the steroids is not prevented. One can say that Proviron cures the problem of aromatization at its root while Nolvadex simply cures the symptoms. For this reason male athletes should prefer Proviron to Nolvadex. With Proviron the athlete obtains more muscle hard-ness since the androgen level is increased and the estrogen concen-tration remains low. This, in particular, is noted positively during the preparation for a competition when used in combination with a diet. Female athletes who naturally have a higher estrogen level of-ten supplement their steroid intake with Proviron resulting in increased muscle hardness. In the past it was common for body-builders to take a daily dose of one 25 mg tablet over several weeks, sometimes even months, in order to appear hard all year round. This was especially important for athletes' appearances at guest performances, seminars and photo sessions. Today Clenbuterol is usually taken over the entire year since possible virilization symp-toms cannot occur which is not yet the case with Proviron. Since Proviron is very effective male athletes usually need only 50-mg/ day which means that the athlete usually takes one 25 mg tablet in the morning and another 25 mg tablet in the evening. In some cases one 25 mg tablet per day is sufficient. When combining Proviron with Nolvadex (50 mg Proviron/day and 20 mg Nolvadex/day) this will lead to an almost complete suppression of estrogen. Even better results are achieved with 50 mg Proviron/ day and 500 - 1000 mg Teslac/day. Since Teslac is a very expensive compound (see Teslac) most athletes do not consider this com-bination..."

AGAIN THIS IS NOT MY PERSONAL THEORY, I COPIED THIS FROM ANOTHER WEBSITE...

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03 Feb 2010 16:24 #35081 by BB_guy
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It seems like you are getting a bit mixed up with PCT and on-cycle estrogen suppression/management.
The article that you posted above has to do with managing/controlling estrogen while on a cycle. PCT is for after you cycle to restore the hormones that were suppressed from added Testosterone etc.

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03 Feb 2010 16:29 #35083 by Dukkes
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Sup BB_Guy, So according to the article the 25mgProviron + 20mgNolva is apart of a cycle and not PCT? so then would i follow with another course of Nolva for PCT only?

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03 Feb 2010 16:56 #35085 by BB_guy
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If say, you are doing a test cycle of 500mg a week for 10 weeks, you could if you really want/need to run Proviron and Nolvadex during the cycle. There are better and cheaper things that you could use when on cycle ie. 0,5mg Letro/A-dex every second day or 0,25mg every day.

2 weeks after your last injection you can start your PCT which looks like this...

your last pin (day 1)
14 days later start Nolvadex
40mg every day for 2 weeks
20mg every day for 2 weeks

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03 Feb 2010 21:16 #35101 by Yohimbe
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BB_guy wrote:

If say, you are doing a test cycle of 500mg a week for 10 weeks, you could if you really want/need to run Proviron and Nolvadex during the cycle. There are better and cheaper things that you could use when on cycle ie. 0,5mg Letro/A-dex every second day or 0,25mg every day.

2 weeks after your last injection you can start your PCT which looks like this...

your last pin (day 1)
14 days later start Nolvadex
40mg every day for 2 weeks
20mg every day for 2 weeks


Bump BB. There are cheaper and more effective ways of lowering estrogen. Proviron is good on cycle because it will harden you up as it is a dht derived compound, bind to SHBG, so will stop as much test becoming bound and has mild anti E properties. It offers no anabolic potential, only androgenic.
But IMO, it's overpriced and you are better off with masteron, or winny is my personal preference

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04 Feb 2010 13:34 #35164 by Dukkes
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Cool man, i just thought that proviron + nolva would be a better option to run during cycle than letro as it does not have a negative feedback loop. But then again the nolva does have a negative feedback loop but the proviron would stop the aromatization? Am i correct?...

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04 Feb 2010 15:48 #35178 by 00pump
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every single drug you put in your mouth has a negative side, please go read the side effects of asprin you will never put another tablnet in your mouth.. bottom line is proviron has many opinions on whether to use it outside of a cycle or during pct, what I have come to gather is its not the best idea. please note tamoxifen is very toxic but so it proviron and any other drug..

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