Doctari's PCT with HCG

Hey Guys

Quick question, I'm doing doctari's PCT with Clomid, Kessar and Aromasin but want to replace the Ovidral with HCG.

Will this work and how will the dosages be adjusted?

Will it be necessary to take the HCG one day on, one day off for 20 days or can i just continue as I'm doing now with 1000IU per week, 500IU Wednesday, 500IU Friday with 3 weeks to go.

Then, calculate the last injection of AAS's component's half life - this is the first official day of your PCT. From this day, use 50mg Clomid twice a day for only 7 days - nothing else. Then, on day 8 start with 20mg Kessar per day and Aromasin 20 to 25mg per day and continue for 21 days. Start on day 8 with 1000IU's of Ovidrel, but split this into 4 to 5 equal injections (200 to 250 IU per shot); one shot every 2 ½ hours during the awake part of your day. Use the Ovidrel one day on, one day off for 20 days. This is the minimum PCT needed.

Ovidrel was just suggested at that point in time as that was the only HCG available due to shortages. Should be fine using HCG as a replacement.

Ovi is more concentrated, so just monitor progress. You might have to up adjust your dose if you feel the effects are not the same.

HCG should be fine, but you will need 10,000iu's where you will only need 250mcg Ovidrel.

Doc chose Ovidrel due to the shortage Netro mentioned, but also to the reasons he gave below:

- Ovidrel
This is the alpha-sub-unit of the HCG molecule. Most of you would be familiar with the beta-sub-unit, called Pregnyl (B-HCG).
This acts as a LH-analogue, stimulating the LH production, leading to testis stimulation of own-testosterone production.
Where Ovidrel is much more superior to Pregnyl, is that the alpha unit stimulates the FSH, LH and TSH production simultaneously - so, it repairs your testosterone function, sperm production and thyroid function in one go, whereas Pregnyl does only the testosterone function.

admin wrote:

HCG should be fine, but you will need 10,000iu's where you will only need 250mcg Ovidrel.

Doc chose Ovidrel due to the shortage Netro mentioned, but also to the reasons he gave below:

- Ovidrel
This is the alpha-sub-unit of the HCG molecule. Most of you would be familiar with the beta-sub-unit, called Pregnyl (B-HCG).
This acts as a LH-analogue, stimulating the LH production, leading to testis stimulation of own-testosterone production.
Where Ovidrel is much more superior to Pregnyl, is that the alpha unit stimulates the FSH, LH and TSH production simultaneously - so, it repairs your testosterone function, sperm production and thyroid function in one go, whereas Pregnyl does only the testosterone function.

Does that mean I need 10,000iu's per day one day on, one day off for 20 days!!?

HDS wrote:

admin wrote:

HCG should be fine, but you will need 10,000iu's where you will only need 250mcg Ovidrel.

Doc chose Ovidrel due to the shortage Netro mentioned, but also to the reasons he gave below:

- Ovidrel
This is the alpha-sub-unit of the HCG molecule. Most of you would be familiar with the beta-sub-unit, called Pregnyl (B-HCG).
This acts as a LH-analogue, stimulating the LH production, leading to testis stimulation of own-testosterone production.
Where Ovidrel is much more superior to Pregnyl, is that the alpha unit stimulates the FSH, LH and TSH production simultaneously - so, it repairs your testosterone function, sperm production and thyroid function in one go, whereas Pregnyl does only the testosterone function.

Does that mean I need 10,000iu's per day one day on, one day off for 20 days!!?

Absolutely not, you need 10,000iu HCG for the entire PCT, where Ovidrel is closer to 6500iu HCG if you compare effectiveness. so in other words; for 250mcg Ovidrel (6500iu) you will need 10,000 Pregnyl.

hi there

sorry for butting in with my own problems but ther are so many ways of using hcg i just want to get some info for myself.

my cycle
600mg equi pw week1 to 14
front load with dbol 40mg week 1 to 4
500mg testoviron week 1 to 14
50mg winstrol eod. week 11 to 14 combined with proviron every day.11 to 14

NOW if i use 500iu hcg during my cycle in 2 week stints
ex. week 2 500iu
week 3 500iu
week 4 off
week 5 500iu and so on to week 14

do i have to take hcg again when my pct starts?
i also want to ad clomid 50mg for 30days and kessar for 30 days or is it overkill? i say rather safe than sorry.

and also should i not increase my testoviron intake seeing as equi is heavy on the natural testosterone.

i would appreciate any help on this

luke wrote:

hi there

sorry for butting in with my own problems but ther are so many ways of using hcg i just want to get some info for myself.

my cycle
600mg equi pw week1 to 14
front load with dbol 40mg week 1 to 4
500mg testoviron week 1 to 14
50mg winstrol eod. week 11 to 14 combined with proviron every day.11 to 14

NOW if i use 500iu hcg during my cycle in 2 week stints
ex. week 2 500iu
week 3 500iu
week 4 off
week 5 500iu and so on to week 14

do i have to take hcg again when my pct starts?
i also want to ad clomid 50mg for 30days and kessar for 30 days or is it overkill? i say rather safe than sorry.

and also should i not increase my testoviron intake seeing as equi is heavy on the natural testosterone.

i would appreciate any help on this

Hey bud

Firstly u need to run the test one week past the eq. The eq ester is longer then ur test ester and if u stop ur two compounds at the same time u will crash as the test will run out quicker than ur eq.

As for the hcg maybe use it week 6 - 10 250iu's twice a week. Clomid for 7 days at 100mg will be enough. After clomid start ur kessar for another 3 weeks @ 20mg.

Also ur winny and proviron combo u can ran until a day before u start pct.

thanks fakey

another question if dont mind my mate wants to do a bulking cycle with testoviron and dbol for 12 weeks but i dont think he should use dbol for that long continuesly he also wants to do winnie from week 9 to 12 how long and at what dosage should he use dbol AND what pct do you recomend

cheers

Bro why not start a new thread on cycles you will get more feedback.

Dbol not longer than 4 weeks or your liver is going to look like a used teabag. Dosage between 40-50mg ED

And winny inj. 50mg ED and tabs basically same as dbol.

luke wrote:

thanks fakey

another question if dont mind my mate wants to do a bulking cycle with testoviron and dbol for 12 weeks but i dont think he should use dbol for that long continuesly he also wants to do winnie from week 9 to 12 how long and at what dosage should he use dbol AND what pct do you recomend

cheers

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