Hard PCT after long course

Hey guys finishing up on my course. Just want to get this aced before i stuff my testicles up

Got my hands on a pregnyl 5000iu x 3 vails. clomid 50mg x 10, and kessar 20mg x 10
Should i use a Ai when starting the pct.

And is pregnyl sufficient for 1500iu EOD for 4 days thereafter 1000iu EOD for 2 weeks. Clomid 100mg ED then kessar 20mg ED till finished.

Is the pregnyl dosages to high ( i can feel i need a long hard pct as i stuffed it up in the past ) and will i need a AI for estro sides? Thank you guys

Roozer wrote: And is pregnyl sufficient for 1500iu EOD for 4 days thereafter 1000iu EOD for 2 weeks.

I wouldn't mind getting some advice on this also. I still have 9 weeks left of my monster cycle and I'll also need to go for broke on PCT.

I just think that you'll need to run Kessar a slight bit longer though.

Ag shit sorry vega what i meant was KESSAR 20 mg ED for 30 days i have the 30 tab packet. I am just scared of all the pregnyl. It is 15000 iu and i dont want to waste money and pregnyl and dont want to get gyno or even sterile.

Why didn't you use hcg halfway through your cycle and then again during PCT? 500IU (split in two shots) EOD for 3-4 weeks should be enough.

Roozer wrote: Ag shit sorry vega what i meant was KESSAR 20 mg ED for 30 days i have the 30 tab packet. I am just scared of all the pregnyl. It is 15000 iu and i dont want to waste money and pregnyl and dont want to get gyno or even sterile.

In my opinion that is a little to much HCG for a number of reasons. Rather waste a little than pin too much.

00pump wrote:

Roozer wrote: Ag shit sorry vega what i meant was KESSAR 20 mg ED for 30 days i have the 30 tab packet. I am just scared of all the pregnyl. It is 15000 iu and i dont want to waste money and pregnyl and dont want to get gyno or even sterile.

In my opinion that is a little to much HCG for a number of reasons. Rather waste a little than pin too much.

What in your opinion would be good pump? 500IU EOD for two weeks before you start Kessar? That's what I normally do.

Hmm, I feel that Doctari has found the perfect balance "in my experience" based on his PCT. However if you do not include the aromasin I feel 500iu eod is the max / 1000iu pregnyl shots when including aromasin. He does state that this is minimal PCT and I'm not in position to argue with an MD.

In the past I have used 1500iu every other day and have noticed some nasty gyno sides, even more so than 1gram test + other anabolics. "It did however work but I believe was a little extreme"

Then again all our bodies are different and different compounds cause different reactions. For me it is simple, if my nuts drop I normally take another shot or two of HCG (500iu), there is no science to what I'm saying just trying to find the balance between to much and to little.

I felt when I was younger I needed less HCG to get back on track, but as years go on I find it more and more important to use HCG for slightly longer periods of time.

So I think it's different with ever individual and knowing your body when deciding on how much and how long to use this product and what type of side effects your may and may not experience.

Food for thought: Doctari does have record high test results back from his PCT guideline so in essence that should be what we all should base our cycles on.

Why didnt you use HCG during the cycle? Dr Crisler at Allthingsmale.com suggests this in all his online seminars. There are many benefits to using HCG. He recommends 250iu for the 2 days prior to your weekly shot(for the TRT). I do LP 375iu for 2 or 3 days straight every week and my knacks are full size almost 5 months ON.
I will be doing the same with my comming cycle starting next week making it a 8 monther(or maybe 9)! After which i will be on TRT for a while - a long while. But i will use HCG every week.

I am a Ballie though so dont do what i am doing! :woohoo: :woohoo: