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21 Jul 2008 14:47 #5064 by mazzal
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Hi Guys!

Im actually really keen to hear how Admin'c Letro cycle is going.. Give us an update please Admin :-)

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21 Jul 2008 23:08 #5069 by admin
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Ok, today was the 14th day I've used Letro. I used 1.25mg per day for the first 11 days with very little results, I then upped the dose to 2.5mg per day from day 12 and I'm starting to show signs of low estrogen.... eg. I'm having some joint pain issues.

I have to say that I think 0.5 mg to 1.25mg per day will work nicely as part of PCT... I notice some aggression issues; quite similar to that of 150mg Clomid.

As far as my gyno is concerned, I haven't seen much difference so far, but I can feel the lumps getting slightly smaller. Thing is that I'm also using 2.5mg Bromo (Parlodel) to help with the progesterone, but I'm still having slight lactation, so It's not working at that dose. Both these products are quite scarce and expensive, so I don't want to use doses that are too high and waste everything in a couple of days.

Batman also used Letro to combat his gyno in the past, maybe he can give us some insight into what he did and how long before he noticed results. Batman also complained about low sex drive, but so far I've only noticed the opposite. But Batman was using 2.5mg from the beginning as far I can remember and I'm only on my second day at 2.5mg.

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22 Jul 2008 21:29 #5099 by Batman
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Yip i used 2.5mg /day

The increased sex drive is prob from the bromo,, it is a side effect.

Pity I don't have any of those letro's left

If it's not working,,, take double,,,

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22 Jul 2008 21:47 #5100 by admin
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How long after you started did you notice results?

Good point on the bromo, never thought about it that way...

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26 Jul 2008 02:24 #5144 by Batman
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Within about two weeks, the sensitivity went down,,, but if i remember correclty I only got really noticable results after about a month

If it's not working,,, take double,,,

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30 Jul 2008 12:20 #5185 by mazzal
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Admin, are you tapering the Letrozol at the end? If so, could you show me how the taper looks please.. Also would you use nolva or clomid after the taper?

Last question :-)
Would Masteron "interfere" with the letro if you had to run them together to combat the gyno?

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30 Jul 2008 16:06 #5193 by admin
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mazzal wrote:

Admin, are you tapering the Letrozol at the end? If so, could you show me how the taper looks please.. Also would you use nolva or clomid after the taper?

Last question :-)
Would Masteron "interfere" with the letro if you had to run them together to combat the gyno?

Cheers
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There will be no need to taper down in my situation as I will start my next gear cycle by the time the 2 months on 2.5mg letro is done. I will then continue the Letro at 0.25 or 0.5mg during my cycle. All in all I will be on letro for about 6 months. Just hope my immune system, kidneys and HDL don't suffer too much... will be monitoring the situation though.

It depends on how your gyno was caused when you decide whether Clomid or Nolva will be used after the Letro. Use Clomid if your gyno was caused by excess estrogen and progesterone. And kessar if it was only because of estrogen.

If you lactate then you know to use Clomid instead. Masteron is not going to help against the gyno... not strong enough...

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03 Aug 2008 09:40 #5244 by admin
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Just another update... I'm starting to notice some improvement with my gyno problem. The puffiness is still there, but the small lumps have been reduced to about half their original size.

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04 Aug 2008 13:10 #5259 by jo1
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admin whats your e mail addy?

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04 Aug 2008 13:20 #5262 by admin
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05 Aug 2008 11:06 #5269 by admin
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I just realized that there is something I've never mentioned about Letro on the forum:

One of the main reasons Letro is so much more effective than Arimidex is because a substantial percentage of aromatase is left untouched by Arimidex due to it's poor ability to enter lipid cells. In other words, the higher your bodyfat percentage, the less the effect of A-dex. Letro on the other hand is 10-30x more effective than Arimidex in it's ability to pass through the cell membrane of lipid (fat) cells and inhibit the activity of aromatase... so it is safe to assume that Letrozole is far superior in lowering estrogen levels in fat cells. (And people with lots of bodyfat)

This also explains why everyone also goes on about dieting before you use substances with estrogenic activity and why people with high bf tends to develop gyno more easily.

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05 Aug 2008 14:40 #5270 by jo1
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a so would you say that if a person with a bid high bf and big tendacy to get gyno, goes on a highly estrogenic cycle, he would be better of witl letro for the cycle than adex?

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05 Aug 2008 15:56 #5273 by admin
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jo1 wrote:

a so would you say that if a person with a bid high bf and big tendacy to get gyno, goes on a highly estrogenic cycle, he would be better of witl letro for the cycle than adex?


Yes, that is exactly what I want to say... Will also send you a mail shortly...

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05 Aug 2008 19:33 #5278 by jackrabbit1
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Precision!!!

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05 Aug 2008 20:46 #5279 by Netro
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@jackrabbit,

Care to explain?

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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05 Aug 2008 21:05 #5281 by Oupiel
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I get the idea, but help me understand.

Fat cells remain even after fat loss, the cells just shrink but do not go away.
So even if you have leaned out before a cycle, you still have the same number of fat cells, with the same potential to aromatise?

So Letro would still be more effective, but dieting before a cycle would have little effect.

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05 Aug 2008 22:03 #5284 by admin
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Oupiel wrote:

I get the idea, but help me understand.

Fat cells remain even after fat loss, the cells just shrink but do not go away.
So even if you have leaned out before a cycle, you still have the same number of fat cells, with the same potential to aromatise?

So Letro would still be more effective, but dieting before a cycle would have little effect.


Good point, will follow up on that and post again. Lipid cells do have an effect on estrogen levels, so there is more to this... just hoped Doctari was around to shed more light...


Just something unrelated: I ordered a total of 420mg Letrozole, but just got word that almost nothing gets passed customs in the US, so my order will be delayed. If anyone is planning on importing anything make sure it comes from Europe... I'm not sure what's going on in China, but I believe it is similar to the US because of the Olympics.

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