Simple Non-HCG PCT

Hey my fellow gym buddies!!

Im midway through my current 15 week cycle consisting of the following:
Dianabol 10mg week 1-4
Equi 350mg week 1-15
Super Test 320mg week 1-15
Letrozole 2.5mg/ml week 1-7 2 drops in mouth every day but now 2 every second day.

PCT:
Kessar 20mg 30 Tabs
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As you can see I have only 30 tabs of Kessar so far and want to get more to complete my PCT. The only problem I have is I cant get HCG as AFAIK it needs to be stored in a fridge and for me that's not an option right now. What other alternatives would be good to take with the Kessar? Preferably something simple.

Thanks all!!!
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Hey bud

Clomid 100mg for 7 days

But i think u should really make a plan for some hcg. If u've got no fridge get a mini coolerbox wit ice packs or something bud. U gonna need it especially with ur cycle length.

I just had a look at the Ovidrel leaflet and you only have to store it below 25C and it will last 30 days.

Ok cool thanks for the reply gents and for checking that out for me admin.
I'm still not 100% sure ill be able to even keep it at 25 degrees as I keep my gear in the safe in the room and it gets pretty warm in there....if worst comes to the worst it seems like Clomid with the Kessar sounds like the best bet so far....

Hmmm...is this the infamous case of doin the juice behind the Mrs's back?

Why exactly cant you keep it in the fridge bud?

HCG is paramount to full recovery of your HPTA. It keeps your testes busy which causes them to start producing endo test faster. Many guys on this forum will tell you not to wait for your balls to turn into raisins before you try do something about it. Rather keep them ticking through out your cycle. The quicker you start producing the endo test, the better for your pct. The better your pct, the more gains you will keep after a successful pct.

Good luck.

Peace...

Lol the truth is im still living with my parents. Im 21...
Maybe its worth just putting an ice pack in my little safe every morning. It prob wont be too hard.

Thanks for all the info guys!

If I buy hCG 5000ui and inject say 1250ui's every 5th day 4 times (5000/4=1250) and then follow it up with 40mg of nolva for 2 weeks then 20mg of nolva for another 2 weeks would that be a decent PCT?

Dammod wrote: Lol the truth is im still living with my parents. Im 21...
Maybe its worth just putting an ice pack in my little safe every morning. It prob wont be too hard.

Thanks for all the info guys!

Then u really shouldn't be using aas.

Fakey_AK wrote:

Dammod wrote: Lol the truth is im still living with my parents. Im 21...
Maybe its worth just putting an ice pack in my little safe every morning. It prob wont be too hard.

Thanks for all the info guys!

Then u really shouldn't be using aas.

I've always had a bit of a problem with this mentality. I really don't see any reason why someone couldn't use if they use it responsibly.

Vega i also see your point but come now i don't think it comes down to responsibility, someone a lot older than 21 can still abuse gear irresponsibly but the impact on his body would be less than a 21 year old using gear responsibly.

I would strongly disagree, a younger body has a much better chance of recovering than the older you get. The older you get the more difficult it will be to get natural hormone levels back.

I would just like ppl to play it safely.

The whole thing about ur growth plates closing is still a issue but then again i haven't really come across any studies for this ( maybe i haven't really looked hard enough).

At the end of it, I don't wanna be the one saying "go ahead, do it" at 21 y old and he screws himself up. Plus i would like to believe that also the older the person is the more responsible he will be and more common sense he will have when using.

But ur right in a way, shooting a person down because of his age isn't always fully correct.

your last epiphyseal plates seal at roughly 25, i haven't exactly looked for evidence that openly displays steroids to seal them prematurely but just go type in side effects of steroids in google and i'm sure there will be a million odd results that include premature growth plate sealing, surely there has to be truth behind it then?

With regards to hormones, i can't remember the article i read it in but i know that it has been mentioned a few times on this forum that your natural testosterone reaches a balance in between 24-30 odd and declines slowly from there (i could be wrong) and is still all over the place before that, why mess with it by supplying exogenous test to your system when your body is still trying to find a balance?

Sorry i have to disagree with your argument but i do see your point.

I hear you brother. That's what the forum is here for, healthy debate. At the end of the day we (I) don't come here to just receive advice from the "gurus" but to formulate my own idea on matter on a given subject. After all its you, me and everybody else that must make the decision to stick a needle in your ass and take the shot so at the end of the day you have to be comfortable.

From a personal point, I'm only 25 now and I've done many many cycles and haven't seen any bad side effects and I've recovered well every single time. I would like to stop at about ±30.

I guess you are right, different courses for different horses we are all allowed our personal opinion and the decision inevitably is up to the individual.

Btw sorry for the hijack Dammod

Haha i am with you on this one vega. Really if we say dont do it, what is the chances a person will listen and just dont use this forum for advice again. And in the end he stuffs himself up because we chased him away. rather give him the proper advice and let him learn and do it himself. in the end it is his life and no one on the forum can say what that person must do.

just my opinion haha

As you all can see, im on this forum taking advise from people. Im a 21 year old on a ASS forum asking about PCT advice...I say it again...P C T. Hopefully that shows that im trying to do things properly.
Whether is was a good idea or not, unfortunately at this stage it doesn't matter. I've already taken the plunge and im asking for advice on a PCT so I can do things PROPERLY.

I dig healthy debate though
no problem about the hi jack...just back to my last question:

Dammod wrote: If I buy hCG 5000ui and inject say 1250ui's every 5th day 4 times (5000/4=1250) and then follow it up with 40mg of nolva for 2 weeks then 20mg of nolva for another 2 weeks would that be a decent PCT?

I personally prefer the 500IU EOD route starting from the last day of the cycle until you start with Kessar.

Yeah i guess I must not be lazy and rather hit the 500 eod. Thanks

Should I add clomid to the mix or will the HCG and kessar be sufficient?

Also, ive been taking letro on-cycle to control side effects, when do I stop the letro?

HCG + Kessar for PCT is 100% perfect.

Letro can be used during the cycle, at 0.25mg you can run right up till the day you start PCT.