Recovering from a screwed up cycle

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24 Aug 2008 18:11 #5483 by Snaper
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Howzit Guys,

I’m asking for you help and advice here.

I’ve been screwing up my cycle the last couple of weeks and now staring the consequences in the eyes.

I’m current on week 9 of the following cycle I did:

Week 1: 200mg Deca p/w
Week 2: 200mg Deca p/w
Week 3: 600mg Nomaviron + 50mg Dianabol
Week 4: 600mg Nomaviron + 50mg Dianabol
Week 5: 600mg Nomaviron + 50mg Dianabol
Week 6: 600mg Nomaviron + 50mg Dianabol
Week 7: 600mg Nomaviron + 30mg Dianabol
Week 8: 200mg Nomaviron
Week 9: Nothing

The cycle was planned for 10 week but the last 2 weeks I really just screwed it up with my cycle, diet and training. I’ve also noticed during week 6 that gyno is getting a big issue as my nipple area got really “puffed” and swollen looking, it really looks stupid.

Now I know I’m the only one the blame due to neglecting PCT and stuff like Kessar. I guess it doesn’t help to keep crying what I’ve already screwed up but rather try to fix it where I can for whatever I can save.

What would your recommendation be for recovering from all this? I’m sitting with gyno manifestation, oily skin now starts to kick in and slowly losing the gains I’ve worked very hard for which is thanks to my poor diet and training.

What can I do to bring the gyno under control as soon as possible and fading out of my bulking cycle without to much of a “test crash” and mental breakdown? Should I fade out of the cycle ASAP with some PCT and get the gyno under control? And is the oily skin and during of the cycle signs of receptor shutdown? I’m planning to run a cutting cycle next to harden up as I want to compete next year.

Your help and advice is much appreciated.

Thanks.

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24 Aug 2008 18:38 #5485 by Oupiel
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Assuming that today is the start of week 9, then it's about 7 days from your jab of Nomaviron (Nomaviron 300 = 250mg Test enethate + 50mg Test Propionate)
Unfortuneatly the test prop has probably flushed out your system, the test en however; has a half life of approx 10 days, so buy now your levels of test are gonna start dropping fast.

If your last jab was less than 7 days ago, it just gives you a little more time before your test levels fall. BUT not much!!!!

Also the Deca would have ensured that your system has shutdown its natural test production.

But like you say, spilt milk!

I suggest you get your hand on some HCG ASAP and start stimulating your natural test. see PCT posts on HCG.
As you used deca, also look at getting some Clomid, again see PCT posts.

Re. the gyno - see recent posts, especially from admin: get some Adex or another AI.

Now is not the time to skimp, drop the cash and get what you need, write it off to school fees.
Also, cleanup your diet and training, it will help you keep some of what you gained.

But move fast, you need to get the HCG going like yesterday.

See attached PDF for some guidance. (can't remember where I got it, but credit goes to the author, not me) (File Removed)

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24 Aug 2008 18:42 #5486 by Snaper
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Thanks for all the info man.

Appreciate it!

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24 Aug 2008 18:57 #5487 by Netro
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Oupiel gave a good reply there, would not use Letro though and sub that for A-Dex in the GP PCT protocol. That is what I subbed when I tried it and it worked very well.

You only had 2 shots of Deca and really low dose, so you can even go for kessar instead of clomid and was also taken some 6 odd weeks ago.

Start A-dex and like mentioned get your HCG for gains keep.

Why did you have two lone shots of Deca in week 1 and 2?

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24 Aug 2008 19:02 #5489 by Snaper
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Sorry let me just correct that cycle info there. It was 3 shots in total, week 1 - 3 at 300mg p/w.

I was some what I had left of my prev cycle basically... BAD BAD BAD I know... :(

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25 Aug 2008 14:46 #5517 by Saizen
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Hey Guys, I see that there hasnt been much written about DHEA and 7OH DHEA...whats the deal with this? I might be wrong, but this is one of the first PCT's that I have seen someone suggesting DHEA in PCT...is it 100% necessary?

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25 Aug 2008 15:02 #5519 by Oupiel
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DHEA is not critical, not IMO, it's a nice to have.

The HCG, Nolva / Kesser (as per Netro) - critical
AI to suppress estrogen and combat gyno - Important but not critical, unless you have gyno issues, then the AI is just as important.

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