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29 Nov 2010 06:45 #56840 by ice-rip
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i have been getting a lot of conflicting information regarding the best start time for hcg. i finished a 12 week course of test cypionate at 600mg/week (1st cycle)/ some say i should take my 1st hcg shot 16 days after my last test cyp shot and some say it should be the time i would have taken my next cyp shot which is 4 days later. who is right here??????

also would using 1500iu of hcg on monday and thurday be as good as 500iu eod. if not why???

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29 Nov 2010 06:51 #56844 by Empire
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more that 1000iu at a time can cause infertility so stick to 500iu eod to keep levels stable and constant... cyp has a half life of 14 days,so if u took 500mg,2 weeks later your level of test would be at 250mg which is fine to start the pct....so 14days.

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29 Nov 2010 07:01 #56845 by ice-rip
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thanks DJ. just a question regarding the half life. i am looking at this web page
www.steroid.com/Testosterone-Cypionate.php

and under the profile right at the bottom it says the active life for test cyp is 15-16 days. does active life = half life or are they mistaken

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29 Nov 2010 07:03 #56846 by Empire
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i always start a pct 2 weeks after last shot depending on substances and dosages used

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29 Nov 2010 07:13 #56847 by ice-rip
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cool. and i shouldnt lose much gains in the interim?????
i started using kessar at 20mg/day on the last week of my cycle. should i continue to use it in the 2 week interim till my hcg starts??

thanks again

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29 Nov 2010 20:00 #56913 by vega5
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The more cycles you do the more you'll figure out how a PCT should work for you as an individual. I personally wait slightly longer before staring PCT like +- 16-20 days depends on how much of what I took on cycle.

There are many theories out there regarging PCT, some say 14 day some say when blood levels reach 100mg Test, I prefer the latter.

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29 Nov 2010 20:02 #56914 by vega5
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ice-rip wrote: cool. and i shouldnt lose much gains in the interim?????
i started using kessar at 20mg/day on the last week of my cycle. should i continue to use it in the 2 week interim till my hcg starts??

thanks again

Dude so you're running PCt while not on PCT? Doesn't make sense.

Usually Nolva (Keassar) is to start as discussed from about two weeks after cycle if you're not using Clomid. So you're doing it now?!

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30 Nov 2010 11:45 #56991 by ice-rip
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vega5 wrote:

ice-rip wrote: cool. and i shouldnt lose much gains in the interim?????
i started using kessar at 20mg/day on the last week of my cycle. should i continue to use it in the 2 week interim till my hcg starts??

thanks again

Dude so you're running PCt while not on PCT? Doesn't make sense.

Usually Nolva (Keassar) is to start as discussed from about two weeks after cycle if you're not using Clomid. So you're doing it now?!


yip. i figured that out my dumbness only recently after reading the pct section. this was based on advice that was given to run kessar every 4 weeks in your cycle or run it right through the cycle. i have stopped and will start clomid after 2 weeks , hcg on the 8th day and then the kessar following

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30 Nov 2010 11:48 #56993 by ice-rip
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vega5 wrote: The more cycles you do the more you'll figure out how a PCT should work for you as an individual. I personally wait slightly longer before staring PCT like +- 16-20 days depends on how much of what I took on cycle.

There are many theories out there regarging PCT, some say 14 day some say when blood levels reach 100mg Test, I prefer the latter.

i think the fear for newbies like myself is losing the gains. do you lose any gains while waiting for your pct to start. should i be using something inbetween while waiting for pct to commence (besides proviron).some have even told me to start right away and not wait for the gear to leave you. this didnt make sense to me

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18 Jan 2011 05:33 #59527 by Tremere
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DJ wrote: more that 1000iu at a time can cause infertility so stick to 500iu eod to keep levels stable and constant... cyp has a half life of 14 days,so if u took 500mg,2 weeks later your level of test would be at 250mg which is fine to start the pct....so 14days.


Ok what happened to me was, i only pinned 0,4 ml for my last shot (that is 100mg test cyp, instead of 250mg) so correct me if i am wrong. I only need to wait a week before starting my PCT, based on the above?

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19 Jan 2011 12:48 #59644 by Tremere
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Anyone?

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19 Jan 2011 12:58 #59648 by Empire
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still 2 weeks after wards...

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19 Jan 2011 13:06 #59651 by Tremere
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Shot DJ. Will send you mail after my PCT to show you my stats! You are gonna be proud bro B)

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19 Jan 2011 14:50 #59658 by du Preez
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Howzit Trem, how did the cycle go?

BALLS TO THE WALL!!!!!!

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20 Jan 2011 04:36 #59677 by Tremere
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Hey bro, awesome!! Will post stats begin - end after PCT...

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