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26 Jan 2008 08:55 #729 by Empire
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ok i am doing my 400mg equipoise for 10 weeks and hoping to start my anavar soon as i placed the order, i have my PCT but i dont know when to take them, i have 2 boxes of kessar, 2 boxes of clomid, 3x1500iu's of pregnyl and 2 boxes of proviron. can you please tell me when exactly i am supposed to taking everything and the dosages?

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26 Jan 2008 08:56 #730 by Empire
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i know doctari recommended to take kessar(10mg) through out he course which i will start doing as of monday...

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26 Jan 2008 14:17 #731 by Doctari
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I gave a framework on basics of PCT treatment - I think it was abouit 10 days ago. It was part of a string on the site - just have a look around, you'll find it. Print the page - then you have it as a reference later on.

I suggest each of us open a file on our computers and download information on subjects that we can find helpful to ourselves in the future. Doing so, will stop us from repeating all the same info over and over again.

Newbies can also search for these subjects in the site's archives and download the info from there.

I provided the framework on PCT for the meantime. My article on the indepth explanation of the physiology of PCT will be on the site hopefully in the next 4-5 weeks - my subject's blood results will only then be available, him only being on the end of his 2'nd week of PCT this week.

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30 Jan 2008 18:33 #792 by kraz
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Mxt, Doctari, Kevin and others...

Can you please advise me whether the pct for the attached cycle is suffiecient? And am I taking it at the right times?

This was my first cycle, sorry if it looks kind of dumb.

Feel free to make alterations to the document and post the proper pct on the website.

Much appreciated.

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30 Jan 2008 23:23 #799 by Doctari
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Kraz, I think you started the Pregnyl too early. Your intervals for the Pregnyl is alright, but I would suggest you double the dose on the first shot.
I would have used the Kessar at 10 mg right through your cycle and up the dose to 20mg, only for the first 10 days or so of your PCT. I think 40mg is way too much. You may only need to use 40-60mg the last 7 days pre-contest - makes you as hard as a brick!! Your timing of your 40mg dose is a bit out - why in the middle of your PCT? Your Clomid dosage is about fine for what your cycle consisted of. I would still double the dose the first 10-14 days, then use it at 50mg pd for the rest of your PCT.
Overall seen, not a bad PCT - just need to be "tweaked" a bit.
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31 Jan 2008 05:49 #802 by Empire
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doc you say that the pregnyl is too early in the course?how long after your last shot of equipoise should it be taken seeing that equipoise has a longer half life...and has kraz done it the right way buy taking 20mg of kessar every secod day for the first 10 days? or must it be changed to 20mg every day?

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31 Jan 2008 08:48 #805 by MxT
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Not he worst I have seen.....but agreed could be tweeked a bit- would have run the EQ right through and since u were running Clomid with nolva 20mg would have been sufficient

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31 Jan 2008 21:31 #816 by Doctari
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MXT could just supply us with the Equi half life. If you used testosterone at the last week of your cycle, I would time my first Pregnyl dose to coincide with the half life of that testosterone ester. Equi is not that androgenic, but more anabolic - I would again base my first Pregnyl dosage at the Equi's half life, even if Equi made up most of my latter part of the AAS cycle.
Why??
Ever thought of why we do PCT? Why do we try and get our own testosterone production up???
It all has to do with cortisol. Any anabolic or androgenic steroid will suppress cortisol's catabolic effect, up to where that compound's therapeutic dosage starts falling less than its half life dosage. When this happens, cortisol starts kicking in. Thus, whatever compound is used last during your AAS cycle, the moment that that compound's blood levels falls to less than half (this coincides with its "half life"), then you will start losing that compound's anabolic support and cortisol will start rising - that's when we need to get our own testii to produce endogenic testosterone to buffer the rising cortisol's effect.
Makes sense?? So, start your PCT's Pregnyl dose on the half life of your last AAS's half life.
Kessar has a 24 hour dosage interval. You will do better by using 10mg daily, than using 20mg every other day...

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01 Feb 2008 21:34 #842 by kraz
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Ok, here is the pct that I modified.

Please note, I have already bought the PCT and have limited funds, so buying extras is not an option, unfortunately.

See if this is better, otherwise please help me to structure the pct for optimum effect with the limited resources.

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02 Feb 2008 09:12 #847 by MxT
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Thats what i would have done, but i would injext the Depo with the EQ- no need to hurt twice imo

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02 Feb 2008 15:25 #850 by kraz
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Thanx for the help Mxt :)

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