PCT advice and alternatives?

Hi,

I recently started using Dbol out of curiosity, however I did not do the necessary research beforehand, and did not know about going onto a PCT afterwards.

In any case, I realized that it's necessary, however the problem stars here.

The plan was to run a cycle of Dbol for about 4 weeks, then switching to Sust350.

I noticed that there's some water retention, and perhaps some 'flubbiness' which I've heard can be expected, but my nipples started feeling puffy, although there's no itching, soreness or hardness. There's just some softness around, and beneath it. Now I'm not exactly cut, and thus this could be attributed to excess fat or water retention I guess, but either way, I don't want to play around and thus would like to get off it for a while till I can confirm that it's not early gyno.

Tried getting hold of the usual AI's, but with no avail, and I was wondering if a natural test booster like ZMA, with something like Animal STAK, which has DHT blockers and AI's in it, could work as a substitute while not on anything else, to get my hormone levels back to normal, and reverse any puffiness which I might have right now.

Again - I admit I should have done more research, and I might be stressing about nothing here, but I'm just seeking some honest advice here.

Thanks.

Dude, I didn't even read ur whole post. I stopped where u mentioned using the sust AFTER the dbol.

Yip u are right, u should have done more research. U have no idea of what u are doing. U should have started the test the same time as the dbol. That's the whole point of taking orals is that it is fast acting and serves as a nice kickstart whilst u wait for the test to kick in.

Taking dbol on its own for 4 weeks and then starting test after that is practically useless.

What dosage of dbol are u taking per day and how much sust do u intend on using per week?

20mg Dbol per day, and 1ml twice a week for the Sust

As mentioned - the cycle was a waste, so I'm looking to go clean, and start over, this time doing it correctly, since there's some puffiness right now, which I hope is not early gyno.

What I need before I do this though, is a clear conscience that I've got the correct PCT at hand IF things go pear shaped.

Due to not getting hold of Nolva or Clomid (I can buy it online however I'm not sure if it would go through customs), I'm looking for alternatives.

Inhibit-E-SNS or Novedex RX perhaps?

how did you get the dbol and sust but cant get clomid and nolva.................. just go back to your source and punch him in the head.

He just went to the UK, so that's a no-go.

Would the stuff set off alarm bells at customs? ie are they controlled substances? Since I've found a place where I can order them without prescription.

How many weeks u bn on the dbol? I doubt 20mg/day is even enough to cause any nipple discomfort. U sure its not in ur mind maybe? That said if ur only bn on it for a week or two I doubt u will even need to get anything at all.

Been using it close to 4 weeks now. What I noticed is a puffy look my chest, around the nipple. I guess one can attribute that to water retention, fat build-up and many other things...however the one thing I've noticed is that my nipples are more visible when wearing a T-shirt. One could argue it's the cold, but the fact remains that to run a cycle properly, I need something for PCT.

So lets assume I can't get hold of Nolva / Clomid / Letro / Aromasin etc. Can one substitute them to some extent with the AI's in Animal STAK, combined with a natural TEST booster with a ZMA base, to get your hormones back to normal? Any experience with Inhibit-E-SNS or Novedex RX? (I can buy these ones online, locally)

EDIT
FYI - I'm aware that LP produces Letro, and the rest, however it's unclear as to how one obtains it, which is why I'm in a pickle.

Stil dnt think its neccessary for 20mg dbol. And no those won't help much at all. Rather get a good quality test booster in stead

Cool - thanks for the feedback.

I'm pretty sure this is as far as it's going to go in terms of help due to the forum guidelines.

Appreciate it.