Problem

I know the subject has been brought up numerous times about gyno but mine just wont go away, the nips are still puffy.

I am currently on pct and have about another week & half left.

clomid 25mg daily
Kessar 20mg daily
Letro 60 drops daily

Anything else i might have to add in to reduce the size, cant be walking around like that now..lol.

Oh cycle was
test, 2ml every 6th day
week 1-8 DBol, 40mg daily
week 4-8, Winstrol 20mg daily

any thoughts guys, much appreciated.

masteron.

whats your bf%?

Ja drop the Kessar and Clomid for a few days lets say a week. i suspect they can counter the effects of the Letro a bit(havnt seen studies but its been suggested in the litrature). 60 Drops of Letro should kill any gyno from that cycle. IF no improvemnt then you have me stumped:S

Bf is around 11%

Thanks MxT, i will give that a try for a week and see how it goes, never thought that they might counteract each other thats why i thought i would post here. Hold thumbs for a week for me...lol.

Yeah funny and i have been taking the letro straight with a few drops of water, anyways its worth a try.

Sorry for the copy paste

Aromasin with Nolvadex

I’ve always been in favor of using Nolvadex during PCT, along with an AI, because reducing estrogen levels has been positively correlated with an increase in testosterone (7) so in my mind, it’s be beneficial to increase testosterone by as many mechanisms as possible while trying to recover your endogenous testosterone levels after a cycle. SO which AI do we use? Letro or A-dex? Well, why don’t we just keep using whichever one we used during the cycle, and add in some Nolvadex? Unfortunately, Nolvadex will significantly reduce the blood plasma levels of both Letrozole as well as Arimidex (. So if we choose to use one of them with our Nolvadex on PCT, we’re throwing away a bit of money as the Nolvadex will be reducing their effectiveness.

When NOLVADEX is used in combination with coumarin-type anticoagulants, a significant increase in anticoagulant effect may occur. Where such coadministration exists, careful monitoring of the patient's prothrombin time is recommended.

In the NSABP P-1 trial, women who required coumarin-type anticoagulants for any reason were ineligible for participation in the trial (See CONTRAINDICATIONS).

There is an increased risk of thromboembolic events occurring when cytotoxic agents are used in combination with NOLVADEX.

Tamoxifen reduced letrozole plasma concentrations by 37%. The effect of tamoxifen on metabolism and excretion of other antineoplastic drugs, such as cyclophosphamide and other drugs that require mixed function oxidases for activation, is not known. Tamoxifen and N-desmethyl tamoxifen plasma concentrations have been shown to be reduced when coadministered with rifampin or aminoglutethimide. Induction of CYP3A4-mediated metabolism is considered to be the mechanism by which these reductions occur; other CYP3A4 inducing agents have not been studied to confirm this effect.

One patient receiving NOLVADEX with concomitant phenobarbital exhibited a steady state serum level of tamoxifen lower than that observed for other patients (ie, 26 ng/mL vs. mean value of 122 ng/mL). However, the clinical significance of this finding is not known. Rifampin induced the metabolism of tamoxifen and significantly reduced the plasma concentrations of tamoxifen in 10 patients. Aminoglutethimide reduces tamoxifen and N-desmethyl tamoxifen plasma concentrations. Medroxyprogesterone reduces plasma concentrations of N-desmethyl, but not tamoxifen.

Concomitant bromocriptine therapy has been shown to elevate serum tamoxifen and N-desmethyl tamoxifen.

Based on clinical and pharmacokinetic results from the anastrozole adjuvant trial, NOLVADEX should not be administered with anastrozole (see CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY – Drug-Drug Interactions section).

That deserves a Karma Hit, Nice one

Yeah, good post by MxT and I totally agree.

BTW: We are planning to launch research Aromasin as well....

Admin - you made my day!!!!!

Dude hows the boobs? U picking up dates or is the issue better?

The issue is the same but because after the initial post, i just started running the Letro by itself and left out the kessar and clomid but Murphy is a bitch cause i ran out ON Letro after 4 days, so i couldnt really gauge if there was a reduction. So ill start in December and run it for 3 weeks on 60 drops and see how it goes from there. I am hoping to reduce the size before i actually go on leave to the coast.

Captain Tact everyone, just like to introduce you ..... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Lol quite right Netro....thank God my women likes my chest and nips

Hmmm ja def starting to see a reduction in size, think i will have to keep the combination in mind on the next pct in the new year.

Great!

Someone mentioned Masteron here. I think it is one of the AAS not utilised enough. I would run it on ALL my courses. The chemical structure is of such that it physically cannot convert to oestrogen, it interacts with the aromatase enzyme system in such a way that it decreases the aromatization of other steroids that do convert, it has a direct binding effect at the oetrogen receptor and effectively blocks it. By doing so, it decreases oestrogenic and following progesteronic side effects. It actually can increase other compounds of your AAS cycle's effective doses by decreasing conversion to oestrogen. Basically you will need little to no ancillaries when running 300 - 500mg Masteron per week.

Agreed with the Doc, another effect I enjoy is at the back end of a cycle and it solidifies gains very nicely.

Many guys shy away from this compound due to the DHT sides as it is combined often with winstrol and feel the DHT levels are too high and hair loss and prostate enlargement might become an issue. In these cases Propecia / Finpecia is a good precautionary compound to use and my personal preference and advice to most is to use the oral winny with it instead of the injectable at the back end of a cycle as you can have more of a free testosterone benefit from the oral winny.