Suggested PCT

Hi Guys,

I am in week 2 of my 12 week cycle and am looking for advice on PCT. I have a box Clomid and Formestane.

This is my cycle:

Wk 1-12 400mg Deca, 500mg Depotrone
Wk 1-4 30mg D-bol

Please help with the PCT, such as dosages and when to start. don't really want any lasting deca dick problems etc.

Thanks

u gonna need to get kessar which u sun at 20-40mg a day for 30days after your cycle..u can get away with kessar. u need to get hold of some HCG (pregnyl or ovidrel will do the trick) and u run that i after your last injection at 1500iu's(pregnyl) every 5-7days for 3weeks. clomid is 50-100mg for 5days with a 5 day break and then 50-100mg comid for another 5 days...should be tip top...

Mxt: you know your stuff with pct here,when must u start your pregnly when it comes to long ester substances? if u using a substance with a 12 day half life etc do u start with hcg 12 days after your last shot?

Thanks dj, good to have some local advice compared to getting it all off the overseas boards.

So i don't need to take anything during the cycle? I saw on the one board that some guys were suggesting Nolva right through the cycle as well.

I got myself a bit confused...I have a box of Kessar and Fertomid (Clomid) not Formestane. So Seems I have everything except pregnyl. Will have to see if my supplier has.

Thanks again. Hopefully Mxt comes back with the pregnly timing answer

HCG you have 2 choices, maintenance doses or higher doses as part of your PCT.
Maintenance, start from week 6, 300iU 2 x p/week and first 2 weeks after last shot (13 and 14) go to 500iU 2 - 3 p/week.
As part of PCT, week 14 - 17, 1500iU 2 x p/week

I would not combine Kessar and Deca for 2 reasons
1.) Kessar may increase progesterone sides
2.) To use it during cycle may make the Deca less effective.

I would opt for Letrozole rather.

Thanks Netro,

Do I need to take any Kessar during the cycle though or should i just have on hand in case?

Then obviously use in PCT.

Bro, IMO I would not use Kessar in either. Kessar and Deca is not a good combo. Rather keep the Kessar for when you do not have 19-Nors in your stack. Get some Letro and it can be used during cycle and PCT

I would do the following:
Extend cycle for 4 weeks TestProp and Winny.
At the same time follow Netro's maintanance HCG protocol during this time.
50mg Clomid + 20mg Kessar starting 2 days after the last Prop shot. Clomid as DJ said for 15 tabs. Kessar throughout.

Letro gives me a warm fuzzy feeling during my PCT ideas so i will definately investigate its use for my next cycle.

Okay, so you saying keep the same cycle for the first 12 weeks and then add the TestProp and Winny for another 4?

What's the idea behind the change for the last 4 weeks? I'm fairly new to this, was previously orals only.

Bud, if you are new to this then stick to the longer esters and first get the feel of the whole thing. Get your PCT done and recovery complete. I understand jacks advice and his reasoning is not wrong, but I would rather keep it simple and not add too many variables and take it from there. Shorter esters = more frequent shots and for beginners this is not ideal. As you progress you an add/ stack more compounds, but for now, just stick to the basics and learn as much as you can.

Thanks Netro, I'll stick to your original advice.

What would the dosage for Letro be? Do i HAVE to use it in the cycle or is just PCT fine?

There is a thread on Letro dosing and explained nicely there.
Only use on cycle if necessary as gyno prevention and the thread explains PCT dosages as well.