Doctari's PCT protocol

There wont be rebound after stopping as much as HCG can elevate estrogen levels it is controlled by Aromasin and you are running that and kessar 2 days after you stop the HCG. I have never really seen an issue with estrogen rebound on myself when using Letro right through PCT and using HCG during this peroid too. I am very sensative to Gyno and I don't seem to get any worse sides at this point. The Letro was a mistake on my part however as much as it can help in a PCT it is not advised to use with either Kessar or Clomid.

If you really scared you can tapper off the Aromasin and use the kessar for another 5 or so days to prevent any estrogen sides

Was thinking this as well (tapper off the Aromasin and extend the Nolva usage)

Thanx

00pump wrote:

...I am on my second shot of Pregnyl and 3rd day of Nolva and feeling great! First time in ALONG time I have a bit of a Libido again. ....

My experience exactly! I did have a slight dip in libido after the Clomid but it quickly returned. And i was on Deca for quite a long time.

hey guys can adex be used in the place of aromasin or is aromasin the Key

Aromasin is the key.

Thanx milk looks like my grocer is gonna get a call again hahaha

The compounds in this PCT are all needed for it to work the way it was designed to. Aromasin is the only AI that will not affect the effectiveness of the SERMs. I did discuss the science behind it somewhere on the forum about 2.5 years ago.

Oh yeah, basically the only change you could make is swop Ovidrel with Pregnyl. However you have to note that Pregnyl is not nearly as effective as Ovidrel and we discussed that also on the forum somewhere.

Admin how do you know when HCG has done it's job (yes I know the balls drop) and you get increase sperm count, however some state you get horny with it others say not, some say its the SERM's that make you horny some say not...

Why i'm asking is that hmm, i'm about 17 days into PCT and still don't feel horny, not like I would like anyway. Or maybe i've forgot what it feels like or where I should be I duno, used gear pretty for for over 10 years now...

Oh the main reason is I duno how this worked but somehow i finished my Pregnyl but still supposed to do 3 or 4 shots now i'm worrying that it wouldn't be complete without those shots. However, everything seems back to normal ? Also should I drop the Aromasin because this could be effecting my libido as if you not stacking HCG with it, i'm supressing to much natrual estrogen ? Or should I just get some more HCG and do it properly? Remeber this is my last course for ages and i'm keen to make babies in a year

1 thing I can say is that Aromasin + Nolva is probabbly the best thing I have _EVER_ used for my gyno, it's so small now it doesn't really effect me.

Sweet.

Best and most effective way is to do a blood panel and sperm count test.

One before your course as a marker and one after PCT to make sure natural hormone production has been restored.

Its the only way to be 100% sure your PCT was good enough.

If you been going juice for 10yrs then your PCT from 10yrs ago will be grossly different to your last one. Your last one will be allot more rigorous.

If you been on gear for many years your PCT will have to evolve with your body as it will become more difficult to restore natural hormone production as time passes and the older you get.

what if you dont have the aromasin to take with the kessar from day 8 to the end?

shoud u reduce the ovidrel dose from 1000iu to 500iu maybe or keep the ovidrel at 1000iu but doube the kessar from 20mg to 40mg?

Well bud, for the PCT to be as effective as the design you need all ingredients.

Kinda like baking a cake without flour and just adding more icing when done.

The biggest reason for the aromasin is so you can run higher doses of HCG without any issues. So yes you would have to lower it.. However then it wont be doctari PCT

please tell me what PCT you would recommend for a Deca/Dbol cycle of 8 weeks please...

if u read the first page u will see what is recommeneded for a full and proper pct. use that as your pct and u will be good to go.

DJ wrote:

if u read the first page u will see what is recommeneded for a full and proper pct. use that as your pct and u will be good to go.

Sorry i'm new at this, where do i go to for that :dry:

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/5-post-...octaris-pct-protocol

Thanks again...

all i can say is that i have been using this pct protocol for now 2 weeks and well "volume" doesnt describe the word...i swear by this pct protocol, i do believe it is the inclusion of the aromasin thats really helped with recovery....(sorry to any ladies reading this) ejaculation volume is double that of what it is off cycle.i have a very unhappy missus that for sure lol.....

@DJ you just reminded me about a scene from a movie. If you have watched scary movie the part were the chick is fucking the guy in the bedroom and she is on top when he blows his load there is so much sperm that he shoots her to the ceiling LOL I had a little laugh to myself :lol:

bro its intense...

DJ, what brand of products are you using for your PCT?

Liquid pharma HCG,Liquid pharma aromasin,Liquid pharma,clomid,liquid pharma kessar....all good in my hood lol

Sweet.
Will start a new thread as I would like some feedback on the new LP orals launched a little while ago.

DJ wrote:

all i can say is that i have been using this pct protocol for now 2 weeks and well "volume" doesnt describe the word...i swear by this pct protocol, i do believe it is the inclusion of the aromasin thats really helped with recovery....(sorry to any ladies reading this) ejaculation volume is double that of what it is off cycle.i have a very unhappy missus that for sure lol.....

lol, this PCT is going to become the standard male fertility treatment soon... More details I cannot give since this protocol has not yet been approved, so I don't want the medical board to know we are already using it.