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02 Jul 2015 10:54 - 02 Jul 2015 10:55 #187462 by admin

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Lex wrote:

Is that the best photo you have? I can't see any of the important stuff, it's just too small.

How was the sample tested? If gas chromatography–mass spectrometry was used then it will only give you the chemical composition of the sample and to get the strength you will also need to use a reference sample of known strength, that's how I understand it. If they used the same DB sample for testing and calibration then the result will obviously show a perfect test result and then the test is worthless to us as far as the dosage goes. That's how I understand GC-MS testing anyway.

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02 Jul 2015 11:09 #187466 by Muscleaddict

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It is testing the concentration of the compound testosterone cypionate, not testosterone, so there was a miscommunication in the other thread. Lex said it had 197mg of testosterone per ml which is not the same thing.

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02 Jul 2015 14:06 #187489 by Lex

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Ok guys I'm not gonna bullshit :lol: i have really no real idea how it was tested when my supplier told me about BD nd the prices I was like wtf it must be fake or under dosed or some other explanation so he's like here's 2 vials of andropen (sust ) and cyp take it for free nd tell me what u think so I was like hell why not Ive been on Both now for 4 weeks nd pgw primo I started about 2 weeks or 3 weeks ago so far I've gained 3.1kgs and I'm looking a lot leaner I was on Npp and super test by pgw then dropped the npp cause of sexual probs nd changed to bd test then thru in primo...without a doubt I really am happy with BD once my pgw primo is finished which will be like tomorrow

im gonna use BD primo

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02 Jul 2015 14:06 #187490 by Lex

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Wait oupa :lol: I'll post a pic of their tren I swear you will be like what the fu*k :lol:

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02 Jul 2015 14:11 #187492 by Oupa

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Lex wrote: Wait oupa :lol: I'll post a pic of their tren I swear you will be like what the fu*k :lol:

You sure they dont use Castrol GTX ?

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02 Jul 2015 15:10 - 02 Jul 2015 15:20 #187497 by Lex

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How did u know oupa :oops: :blush: :lol: ok honestly the colour is slightly darker. Their tren is red :ohmy:. Ok I'll try get a better pic from the guy later admin the minuet I get it I'll post it

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02 Jul 2015 15:16 #187501 by Hormonas

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Lex, rather use the edit function instead of posting 3 times in the space of a few minutes

Yes it will get your post count up but it will also clog up the thread haha

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02 Jul 2015 15:29 - 02 Jul 2015 15:41 #187503 by admin

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Muscleaddict wrote: It is testing the concentration of the compound testosterone cypionate, not testosterone, so there was a miscommunication in the other thread. Lex said it had 197mg of testosterone per ml which is not the same thing.

I know, I can see that, but still how do they determine the concentration without a reference sample of known concentration? Or do they use other tests or techniques to determine the dosage? Or did they use a pharmaceutical brand as the reference sample?

EDIT: Reason I'm asking is because I've sent stuff to be tested before and they gave me a list of all the nastiness it contained from highest to lowest concentrations, but they couldn't tell me how much of each chemical it contained since they had no known sample to compare the spikes against. It also had a graph with the spikes of each chemical, why doesn't this test have that. I think some labs just use the same sample for testing and calibration and then it creates the appearance that a product is accurately dosed, but all it actually tells you is that the chemical is what they claim it to be.

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02 Jul 2015 16:12 - 02 Jul 2015 16:14 #187511 by Muscleaddict

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What was the testing method? With GC/MS they would measure retention times of each compound in the solution to determine what compounds are present.

Then they could determine the purity of the test cyp by measuring the impurities in the sample being tested. Gas chromatography could determine the mass of the other compounds/impurities found and then the purity or mass fraction of the test cyp would be established by the subtracting the total mass fraction of the impurities from the total mass. I'm pretty sure. I think. :S

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02 Jul 2015 16:27 #187513 by admin

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Thanks MA

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Lex
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02 Jul 2015 16:59 #187516 by Lex

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I think they did compare it to a pharma brand but that could be false I'll find out everything from my guy and what method of testing they used

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10 Jul 2015 01:24 #187825 by Lex

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Guys I need advice now ! Well like asap please ! I was finishing my BD Cyp nd I started to notice there's like small tiny green peices in the vial nd once I drained out the vial I saw stuff inside I can't explain it I haven't poked yet because im worried can anyone please tell me if its safe to use please I'll post pics up now please advice me asap

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10 Jul 2015 01:29 - 10 Jul 2015 01:30 #187826 by Lex

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Please guys reply asap Ive never seen this on any of my vials before

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10 Jul 2015 05:54 #187829 by lobo

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The green could be from the green rubber seal of the vial

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10 Jul 2015 10:14 - 10 Jul 2015 10:16 #187840 by Lex

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Ja the green is the seal of the vial...my dealer said the oil crystallized nd I should heat it up ? :huh: have any of u guys experienced this before.. He said put it in boiling water for 5-10mins

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10 Jul 2015 10:32 #187842 by Mason Might

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It can happen, sometimes because the concentration is too high...

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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10 Jul 2015 10:37 #187843 by l1qu1d

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lol - oh boy..

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10 Jul 2015 10:41 #187845 by Mason Might

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When PGW first came out similar things happened. I think the green fleck was the rubber, so perhaps they using inferior packaging? Other than that, a little more bang for your buck? Why not!

There's a thread somewhere that explains how to reconstitute the compound per say. may be in the PGW thread, but you'll have to look as it years back.

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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10 Jul 2015 11:20 #187849 by Oupiel

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You've also used almost 10ml of the stuff in that vial with no apparent issues.....

what's a ml more gonna do :whistle:

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10 Jul 2015 11:53 #187854 by Rhino

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It crystallizes when it gets cold this time of year. The PGW NPP/Mas and test I have at the moment do the same thing just let it sit in some warm water for a bit.
The green looks like some of the seal. If it's algea you not the lab results were BS :lol:

Go big or go home...

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10 Jul 2015 15:44 #187872 by 00pump

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I've never had that with PGW but I would hate that to sit in my ass

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10 Jul 2015 17:40 #187878 by Oupa

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I have had that with PWG, but that's because poephol over here placed them in the fridge for a weekend.

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10 Jul 2015 17:42 #187879 by Oupa

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@ Lex

There is no way in hell i will inject that shit from the first photo in your post. i would rather eat a dead rat.

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10 Jul 2015 18:25 #187882 by Rhino

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Oupa wrote: @ Lex

There is no way in hell i will inject that shit from the first photo in your post. i would rather eat a dead rat.

Ye crystals are one thing but the liquid should be clear. That milky looking pond water in your first pic looks nasty.

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10 Jul 2015 22:49 #187886 by Lex

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Ja oupiels right I finished 10 mls of Cyp and about 4 mls of andropen (sust) and I have no issue tho ? Ooh the first pic looks scary yes :lol: I did this "Full a cup with boiling water, stand the vial in the cup and fill with water until it reaches just below the head of the vial don't submerge it completely " it actually looks normal again

I'll post a pic in the morning

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