MK-677 from Liquid-Pharma

I'm not looking forward to the lethargic side effect. I see Oupa says T3 helped him but I don't have any experience with T3 and don't want to mess with my Thyroid, so if it does happen to me I'll try rather ride it out and see if it gets better after a week or 2.

Couple of us using the LPMK677. If you take it at night an hour or so before you want to sleep it actually calms you down and it has helped me sleep when I usually struggle. After about 3-4 weeks of use you will find that you might wake up earlier or a couple of times at night, but you will have better quality sleep and should feel fine. Hunger is a side, it makes you hungry for the first week or two, and it can also make you have vivid dreams. If you are having lethargy sides, try taking some Ashwagandha Extra, Solal has a great product, and it compliments the MK677 very nicely

Oom G wrote: I'm not looking forward to the lethargic side effect. I see Oupa says T3 helped him but I don't have any experience with T3 and don't want to mess with my Thyroid, so if it does happen to me I'll try rather ride it out and see if it gets better after a week or 2.

Your thyroid should restore your natural levels within a few weeks if you're prepared to ride it out, but the T3 dose Oupa suggested is not going to cause issues - it is pretty much at the same level as your normal tsh production.

My shits sorted by adding 20mcg T3

ok good stuff
if the lethargy becomes unbearable i will try the Ashwagandha Extra.

if that doesn't help how do you dose the 20mcg of T3?

I'm on my fourth day of using it. The first two days I had really broken sleep and vivid dreams. And lethargic as fuck the next day. Last night I slept like a baby in a coma and having no feelings of lethargy today. Will see how it goes the next few days but I feel like my body is starting to adjust already. I've experienced no tingling in the hands and no noticeable increase in appetite as yet.

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I'm not so sure MK-677 will give you the carpel tunnel sides as actual HGH does.. not in a 1/cap dose before bed in any case?

I'm taking a cap at night before bed and then actual HGH 3-5iu's the next morning - and the only time i've had the tingling was at the high dosage actual HGH is added... but everyone is different and thats what makes it so interesting...

Oom G wrote: ok good stuff
if the lethargy becomes unbearable i will try the Ashwagandha Extra.

if that doesn't help how do you dose the 20mcg of T3?

I use it as i wake up. one dose.

Oupa wrote:

Oom G wrote: ok good stuff
if the lethargy becomes unbearable i will try the Ashwagandha Extra.

if that doesn't help how do you dose the 20mcg of T3?

I use it as i wake up. one dose.

Here's an old article that may be of interest:

thinksteroids.com/articles/thyroid-hormone-growth-hormone/

Eidolon wrote:

Oupa wrote:

Oom G wrote: ok good stuff
if the lethargy becomes unbearable i will try the Ashwagandha Extra.

if that doesn't help how do you dose the 20mcg of T3?

I use it as i wake up. one dose.

Here's an old article that may be of interest:

thinksteroids.com/articles/thyroid-hormone-growth-hormone/

Oupa / MA your thoughts on this article?

Based on the article would supplementing T4 while using MK677 be beneficial? MK isn't necessarily introducing exogenous GH into the body, so I'm not sure this would be the case. Thoughts?

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As far as I know, T4 is just a "reserve for T3"... I'm not sure why you would use it over T3, but would love to know others opinion on this?

TheV wrote: As far as I know, T4 is just a "reserve for T3"... I'm not sure why you would use it over T3, but would love to know others opinion on this?

Did you read the article?

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IronKobra767 wrote: Based on the article would supplementing T4 while using MK677 be beneficial? MK isn't necessarily introducing exogenous GH into the body, so I'm not sure this would be the case. Thoughts?

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Mk677 causes an increase in endogenous GH, and from the comments regarding lethargy and Oupa's supplementation with T3, it would appear to have a similar impact on thyroid hormones. The article seems to refer to their role in the conversion to IGF-1, which is also the point of MK use.

I specifically referred to it as an old article because I've read some responses refuting the need for t3/t4 supplementation, particularly because the thyroid is pretty good at restoring natural levels. Similar to when t3 is used for fat loss. It's an interesting article, if nothing else

I'm sure both supplementation with t3 or t4 will have the same benefits to lethargy, but I have no idea if t4 provides the additional advantages that the article suggests. I know many GH users who use T4 to combat lethargy. Here's what my thyroid levels looked like on 75mcg of T4 and 6iu of pretty potent GH:

One week since adding the mk677 to my cycle gained 1.7kgs still dry and hard but very tired during the day apetite has normalised back to non existent battling to get 2000cals in per day

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2000 calories, I'll eat that in a serving

Haha I'm really struggling have no eetlus going to try and readjust diet and push back up to 3500cals per day
Any suggestions can't look at a chicken breast anymore haha

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Tmuscle wrote: Haha I'm really struggling have no eetlus going to try and readjust diet and push back up to 3500cals per day
Any suggestions can't look at a chicken breast anymore haha

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How are you experiencing the exact opposite to what is understood and reported from MK? Curious.

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Furk wrote:

Tmuscle wrote: Haha I'm really struggling have no eetlus going to try and readjust diet and push back up to 3500cals per day
Any suggestions can't look at a chicken breast anymore haha

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How are you experiencing the exact opposite to what is understood and reported from MK? Curious.

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Was also confused by this.

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Eidolon wrote:

Oupa wrote:

Oom G wrote: ok good stuff
if the lethargy becomes unbearable i will try the Ashwagandha Extra.

if that doesn't help how do you dose the 20mcg of T3?

I use it as i wake up. one dose.

Here's an old article that may be of interest:

thinksteroids.com/articles/thyroid-hormone-growth-hormone/

I tend to agree with most of this

Don't know exactly what is going on with my system
Am running tren ace 300mg pweek
Equipoise 350mg p week
Sustaplex 325 mg p week
Anavar 60mg ed
The equi was added two weeks ago in the hope of increasing apetite
There was a definite increase in apetite for the first two days on mk677 then gone again
Help or advice is always appreciated

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Tmuscle wrote: Haha I'm really struggling have no eetlus going to try and readjust diet and push back up to 3500cals per day
Any suggestions can't look at a chicken breast anymore haha

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The blender is your friend.

zaino wrote:

Tmuscle wrote: Haha I'm really struggling have no eetlus going to try and readjust diet and push back up to 3500cals per day
Any suggestions can't look at a chicken breast anymore haha

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The blender is your friend.

Amen to that.

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Interesting is that my wife is currently experiencing the exact side effects of extreme fatigue, but T3 is NOT solving her issues.

And how is the water retention doing?