Info on quality of these two brands

heya friends,
since iPh@rma went kaput, i am checking other afordable brands mainly for test cyp & test Enan. i see two brands that i have not seen elsewhere before and they are very affordable. 
any of you have used/have experience using these 2x? I enjoy UPA which is still around, but with this last iPh@rma scare i want to buy in bulk and not have to run around like this again, hence the lower price point helps.

1. American Pharma Labs
2. Androgen

Rather stick to well known brands. Saw this brand some years ago floating around.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/steroid...n-pharma-labs#210191

Testosterone is pretty reasonably priced as is, so you might save yourself 200-300-500 bucks if buying bulk and you are really trusting the cheapest brands around to be "affordable". Mmmm ok. That's like saying I'm looking to buy the cheapest BMW online and potentially getting a crashed damage one or one that is in limp mode because the guy said it was cheap in the advert.

Sometimes paying the extra money is worth it when you know what you are getting vs a shot in the dark because you are saving a couple bucks.

I get that the economy is tough right now, and with money losing value, people are looking for cheaper options. But here's the problem: to stay competitive, even good brands have to cut costs somewhere. They can't lower production costs easily, especially since prices are going up everywhere. So, the only other option is to either shrink the product size or lower its quality. That's why we're seeing prices rise, sizes shrink, or quality drop... it's all driven by the demand for cheaper, "good enough" products.

When it comes to roids the mindset should instead be to buy the highest quality available, even if it comes at a slight price premium. If we don't do that we will be left with cheap shit that is a health risk.

100s thanks friends, yeah its a rough time!! but true in the sense "what are you putting into your body" can always be hopeful you strike a bargain (good quality at amazing price) thats life i suppose
bought from another online reseller recently and havnt heard anything since... not sure if they will get back to me, otherwise money gone down the drain. ordered previously and no issues, not sure if they too maybe got busted and this is maar collateral damage. hopefully they just on a vacation without comms
 

i like that you are hopeful like that

" strike a bargain (good quality at amazing price)" 

Without disrespect, and with due deference to the senior members here, I've learned the hard way that there are very few legitimate bargains out there.
The consequences to your health if a single "bargain" goes wrong can be devastating. Long ago, the venerable Oupa referred to abscesses caused by bad gear.
There are Pubmed articles containing graphic photos of limb amputations caused by injecting bad substances. My conclusion is, pay the premium for trusted meds.
 
 

shucks im still naieve and believe the best of goods sold, scary thought though and good reminder, thanks alot!