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Woah Hold your horces HaVoK bro,
We don't know anything about you, how old are you, what are your stats, should you even be using gear... I'm not convinced that the answers will be good ones...
This is what we already know about you:
1) You have no clue what steroid compounds exist and what they do so you haven't read alot of profiles. I say this because you though prop was an oral. Since profiles are the first thing newbs read, it is evident you know nothing about gear.
2) You have not researched the principle of cycleing gear and PCT. I say this because you have just finished a 50mg / day var cycle (which
I'm not sure you should've done in the first pace) and are now starting another cycle immediately afterwards. Then you ask Brandon why he is coming off gear for so long. You do not understand the timeon timeoff concept of cycling and you didn't even know you needed PCT for Var.
I seriously doubt you are ready for gear, and before you take those orals I think you should do two things...
1) Post up age, stats, etc... so we know what we are dealing with.
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2) Go read the FAQ thread in the General section.
Sorry bro, its just that the post you have made are making me seriously doubt your steroid aptitude...
^^^^ the above advice epitomises what the forums here are about...getting quality advice and quality guidance in an area that is foreign to most.
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I think you are too young to start using gear. Wait till you are 21 or older. Get your diet and training in order and you should see excellent gains naturally.
If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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well stats is what you just gave, age height weight etc...dude you're too young for gear...oh milktuds beat me to it, oh well but now you have two people telling you the same thing and the other members will tell you the sameThank you for the criticism Inja, I do not take any offense to what you have just said because this will help me enhance my knowledge on gear. I am 18, i weigh about 98kg's and am 1.92m tall. I will not start my next course without fully preping for it and learning from you guys. What exactly do u mean by stats?
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im 26. wait the extra couple of years and sort out your diet before you think about gear. seriously, all the guys (and girls) will tell you that diet is key to gaining muscle and losing fat etc etc
"Shut the fuck up and lift"
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That being said how fat are you? 98kg is some good mass for your age if you are lean, which may mean your natural peak is far higher than most. Then in a few years when you do a proper cycle you will really be massive.
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LP Var is mild but the idea is to save it for when you need it in a little time when you plateau again. How long you been training for again? What sports you play?
Usually people taut steroids that convert to estrogen as those that stunt growth but I thought I should mention to you that oxandrolone can also stunt your growth bro. Generally under 18's are only given in the region of 5mg a day. And even this dose can upset hormones in such a way that abnormal estrogen levels cause premature capping of bones etc...
Just thought I'd explain one of the risk associated with taking steroids at your age.
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ive been training for about 3 years now, im a rugby player so our school has us in the gym about 3 times per week and the i do additional 3 training sessions at my own gym. And thanks for the heads up on the var side effects. What do you mean by when i plateau again?
a plateau is basically a sticking point in your training when you just cant seem to get any better results, whether it be breaking through your max bench or gaining more muscle mass. At your age I would be surprised if you`ve reached one yet.... If I were you I woud`nt even consider gear. The risk is too big. The amount of gains you can make from just having a natural well worked out diet that includes a lot of protein and carbs combined with natural supplements are huge. This plus a solid gym routine and a good amount of commitment will sort you out.
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In regards to the carbs, stick to the complex carbs, these are the carbs that slowly release energy into your system as opposed to simple carbs that cause short term spikes. The timing of the intake of your carbs is important too. If you get your carbs right you `ll be able to give it 100% during your workout, get it wrong and you`ll struggle.Not sure how long you train for but for but for your weight you need about 7-800gs of carbs a day if you training for approx. 2 hrs.
You can get CC`s from foods like, oats, beans, potatoes, whole wheat pastas/ breads etc.
I would recommend that you get yourself a good multi vitamin, creatine, glutamine and a good whey protein. Thats the minimum I would say you need at this point.
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1g carb = 4 cal
1g prot = 4 cal
1g fat = 9 cal
Something like 40:40:20 is good. You can up the carb ratio when gaining mass and lower it when dieting.
I love brown rice, chow dat shiz all day long, but potatoes are my next favourite.
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I'm not sure how much creatine the Super Pump 250 provides, so you might wanna add some extra 5g of creatine monohydrate post workout together with your high glycemic carbs and whey.
If you got the cash animal pak and Optimen are great multi's, if you on budget Biogen has their multi on special for ~R1 a tab right now.
EDIT// Just realised you got some cash bro, Buying Gold Standard, Super Pump and Oxandrolone... I suppose this'll make it easy for ya to put on mass. I'm one of those on a real tight budget and once accomodation, food, and petrol is paid for I have very little to set aside. So I'm always looking for somewhere to save.
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I for one just take the whey because I need the protein, I don't care that it has no flavour, I don't care it clumps sometimes and doesn't always mix in hundreds. Heck sometimes I just use my mouth as a blender (actually most of the time). You could think of LSJ's whey as the raw ingredient in supplemnt company whey.
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and I don't care if its a bit lumpy, normally isn't but a bit frothy at times.. just let it settle for a few minutes, but the small ammount of water you need, I don't care just down it...
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If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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