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29 Jun 2010 22:53 #46791 by juiced169
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Hi Guys

Just wanted to know if anybody has seen tren that has a golden yellow color as I know most tren is red rust color. I did a bit of research on the net and I read that some tren is golden yellow and that color does not play a big role in the quality of tren. What opinions do you guys have thanks.

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29 Jun 2010 23:09 #46792 by Netro
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What brand bud and is it single ester or blends?

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29 Jun 2010 23:50 #46794 by Mr Moose
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Most i have seen are different>>

Ace mixes tend to be that described red colour!

But tren E, tren H and combos are different, most of the Global trens are that more golden yellow colour! Changes from brand to brand, depends on the mixers used concentration etc... Too many factors to make a valid statement like "if its red pin if if its blue stay away" (dont take blue tren) but you know what i mean:)

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30 Jun 2010 08:06 #46796 by Empire
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i bet u its taurus tren.

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30 Jun 2010 10:01 #46800 by juiced169
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Thanks for the feedback. Its a blend of tren a and tren e. Had my first shot last night did not get the tren cough people talk about but i read not everyone gets this. What are you supposed to feel when you are on tren as opposed to test. How long before you start to feel something. Sorry this is my first time i am taking tren so dont know what to expect. Dj you got issues dude no it is not taurus and just to give you some education that old ballie as you call him has a wealth of knowledge sure his stuff does not come in pretty packaging but the stuff inside works and that is what counts. The majority of the durban boys buy from him and what is amazing is everybody goes back for more so how shit can it actually be. One thing you should learn in sales is to never knock you opposition it only makes you look bad.

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30 Jun 2010 10:18 #46802 by Netro
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Play nice Boys. We are all friends here and entitled to our own opinions. So respect that even if they differ.

This is a learning portal and information sharing.

I have posted this cause I can see the responses coming, so just keep them clean.

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30 Jun 2010 10:24 #46803 by Netro
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To answer the original question, Moose has it spot on. There are many variables when it comes to what finished compounds look like. So, the answer is impossible to justify 100%. Main thing is to make sure your supplier is reliable and ask around if guys have used that particular brand etc. Different suppliers use different raw material suppliers and carriers in making the final product. All these variables affect colour, viscosity etc.

As for the sides, well not everyone gets them and some take longer and others faster. Also depends on ester, shorter ester will result in faster effects and along with that faster side effects and longer ester is the opposite.

Also agree with Moose, if its blue then rather stay away .. :laugh:

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30 Jun 2010 10:32 #46804 by Mr Moose
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Juiced don't panic man...

DJ's comments are merited in a certain light, when you think about a lab you consider many factors. I have never said taurus are fake, nor has DJ - they are dosed rather well in comparison to some UG's. But service?? Comfort?? Professionalism?? Science?? Packaging?? They just fall far too short in too many categories for me to even consider using them... Wouldn't put blue tren past that ballie either;) ha ha!

If you haven't noticed a noticeable strength increase after week 4 then chances are its fake or not well dosed. Don't know how its favoring the long ester but I would say that's a safe analogy. Also look out for the dreams, night sweats and trouble sleeping, good indicators, I also never get tren cough!

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30 Jun 2010 10:43 #46805 by Netro
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He took his first shot last night, so nothing will be noticeable as yet. Will have to wait for the acetate ester to kick in the next few days and even longer for the levels to stabilize for nice effects.

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30 Jun 2010 10:43 #46806 by Empire
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i have seen that old ballie take someone 2 weeks out from a show and put him 5 weeks backwards..one thing in sales? i dont sell any products so get your story right...i support brands that work and i have seen first hand what tauras stuff has done to people,3 guys having major infections and a doctor having a hole in his arm the size of the last digit of your pinky finger as a result of a delt shot with dodgy muti.... i have seen that with my own eyes,not talking about rumors. u say alot of durban guys get from him,all the uneducated ones thats for sure.your choice to trust him but i sure as shit wouldnt trust him,funny how i know 3 of his main sellers that wont even use the stuff he supplies,they all use pgw yet sell taurus...thats brand loyalty and trust if u ask me.

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30 Jun 2010 11:48 #46808 by SNOK1986
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Juiced what u running with the tren?

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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30 Jun 2010 21:41 #46819 by juiced169
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Hi Snok I am runing some test e at 1000mg a week for 12 weeks also adding in some winny tabs at 30mg per day for the last 4 weeks. This is a big course for me as after this I dont know how long I will be off as bucks might be a bit low.

@ Dj you punt PGW only correct me if I am wrong but I dont think I have ever seen you say something decent about another brand so I guess you know the owners of PGW very well thats why I said it is bad to knock your opposition you might as well sell the stuff. Dont get me wrong PGW is good everyone I have spoken with has told me that and after this course I will give PGW a try and I will let you know how it compares with what I have used no bullshit! All I am saying is there are other brands out there that also have good gear. As for the ballie I have seen photos of him about 3 years back when he entered that year and let me tell you he looked fucking good for his age alot better than most of the guys on this form I can bet you that. As for infections I have not heard anyone complain about that maybe there were some guys in the very begining when the brand was still brand new put all those problems have been ironed out and as for only the uneducated guys still buying from him I have seen some very very big guys buying from him time and time again so I dont know how studid they must be but whatever he is selling them sure seems to be working. I know ****** quiet well and the ballie is friends with **** and **** has told me the Ballies stuff is fine in case you dont know who ****** is he is someone very high up in NABBA and is most proberly like the south african version of Joe Weider. At the end of the day DJ I am not hear to fight with you or anybody else so lets leave it at that thanks.

Thanks MR Moose for the feedback you mentioned taurus is dosed rather well for a UG do you perhaps know someone who has used this gear? Thanks

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30 Jun 2010 22:09 #46820 by Netro
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Lets not mention any names here pls guys. I am sure the people would not appreciate it.

Juiced, what is the cycle you are running as you have only mentioned parts and not the whole thing.

Would be nice to see what you have planned and for how long. Stats would be great as well.

Let us know how it goes as you say it is a big one, so would be good to see how you progress through the cycle.

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30 Jun 2010 22:13 #46821 by milktuds
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juiced169 aren't you that 40 something dude who is doing his first cycle? Just asking, can remember some while ago someone wanted to do a tren cycle with Taurus gear.

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30 Jun 2010 22:33 #46822 by Mr Moose
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Hmmm dont know any Pro's on taurus.Then again only about 10% of my guys use UG'S....

But thats going in another direction, Listen i am not going to punt or go against any lab unless they have done something wrong. Lets say i work on a strike system the more strikes against a lab the less chance there is that i will recommend it.

PGW: 0 strikes (SO FAR) ha ha
Axio: 1 strike - underdosed. (NOT FAKE!)
Nomad: 1 Strike - underdosed. (NOT FAKE!)
Taurus: 4 strikes - Injection pain, service, science, professionalism / Packaging.

True they are very well dosed never heard someone complain about not getting results but also never heard anyone go through a cycle without a issue pertaining to vials, injection pain or comeback.
Fair enough if you deal with it and get results like i am sure some people do then by all means, for me personally there are too many flaws and not where i would put my top $;)

Post up that cycle so we can help!

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01 Jul 2010 08:44 #46826 by jackrabbit1
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@juiced169

DJ Never runs down a lab without reason. He has valid reasons as stated and that is all.
You on the other hand dont believe him - thats your choice. But now you are attacking him for what he believes? Why?
Let go. ;)

If you ask me if i would use Taurus i would say no. DJs word weighs heavier than yours. And thats not an attack either.

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01 Jul 2010 10:22 #46831 by juiced169
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Hi everyone as mentioned i am not taking taurus it is actually a brand called quantum bio science something new on the scene. A good friend of mine that i have known for years we used to train together and is built like a tank has used there test and told me he got really good results from it gained 8kg in 8 weeks and was nice and hard. I am going on this cycle for 12 weeks going to take 300mg of tren a week for 8 weeks 1000mg of test a week for 12 weeks and the last 4 weeks going to take 30mg of oral winstol per a day 6 days a week giving sunday a rest this will also make my bottle of 50 tabs last a month. The tabs are from dragon pharmaceuticals from ukrain. My stats are as follows 99kg with bf at around 20 % looking to get my weight down to 95kg and bf to around 10%. @milktuds no i am not 40 actually 28 and have taken gear before just not tren. @mr moose thanks for the help appreciate it any advise is appreciated shot. As for pct was going to take pregnol 1500iu 3 shots on the week of my last shot of test then wait 2 weeks and take clomid 200mg first day then 100mg for rest of the week then 50mg for second week then thats it.

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01 Jul 2010 10:28 #46832 by juiced169
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Sorry forgot to ask i have been told you cant get pregnol anymore what hcg can you use in its place?

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01 Jul 2010 11:05 #46835 by North_Boy1
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juiced169 wrote:

Sorry forgot to ask i have been told you cant get pregnol anymore what hcg can you use in its place?


If you can't get Pregnyl use Ovidrel or LP HcG 5000. I pinned my last 500iU last night of LP HcG and my nuts are just fine.

If everybody does it, is it still cheating?

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01 Jul 2010 19:49 #46866 by jackrabbit1
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I'm using LP during my cycle and its working nicely. Cant say its any less effective than Ovidrel - Only time will tell. Right now, the size increasess and volume :) increases.

juiced169 - Consider Doctari's PCT with that cycle as well as the HCG during.

Cool! Keep us updated.

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01 Jul 2010 23:28 #46880 by juiced169
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Hi some of you guys wanted my stats so you could see were you could help. My stats have been posted but no feedback help a brother out here guys shot.

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02 Jul 2010 07:37 #46884 by jackrabbit1
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juiced169 wrote:

Hi some of you guys wanted my stats so you could see were you could help. My stats have been posted but no feedback help a brother out here guys shot.


Point us to the post.

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02 Jul 2010 13:33 #46890 by juiced169
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@jack rabbit if you read further up in this post you will see the guys asking for my stats

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04 Jul 2010 13:54 #46912 by Roozer
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Hey bud how long you gonna run the tren? and its the first time on tren remember the sides can be harsh especially on the enthanate ester that the side effects will stay longer in your system.

And on hcg try to take some during cycle as well cause the tren will shut you down hev. What test will it be that you gonna use? A mix blend or a single ester?

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05 Jul 2010 16:19 #46947 by juiced169
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Will be hitting the tren for 8 weeks of my 12 week cycle the test is a mix of cyp and ethenate

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