TEST. CYPIONANTE

Yup, I see there are a couple and the post is actually quite a good one since it describes the first steps to increase natural Testosterone as all non HRT related (the most important is to lose that belly!)

The one I was refering to is:

1: Front Horm Res. 2009;37:197-203.

Testosterone and prostate safety.Morgentaler A, Schulman C.
Division of Urology, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Mass., USA.

For several decades it has been assumed that higher testosterone (T) leads to greater growth of benign and malignant prostate tissue, but this view has come under greater scrutiny over the last several years. Although there are as yet no large-scale, long-term controlled studies of T therapy to provide a definitive assessment of risk, numerous smaller clinical trials as well as population-based longitudinal studies consistently fail to support the historical idea that T therapy poses an increased risk of prostate cancer or exacerbation of symptoms due to benign prostatic hyperplasia. This lack of prostate risk despite increased serum T appears to be explained by data showing that exogenous T does not raise intraprostatic concentrations of T or dihydrotestosterone, suggesting a saturation model. In contrast, there is mounting evidence that low serum T is associated with greater prostate cancer risk, and more worrisome features of prostate cancer. In conclusion, the available evidence strongly suggests that T therapy is safe for the prostate. Given that the population at risk for T deficiency overlaps with the population at risk for prostate cancer, it is strongly recommended that men undergoing T therapy undergo regular monitoring for prostate cancer.

amongst others - i made a decision to use AAS based on reading both the positive as well as negative. The positive far outweighed the neg. On youtube there are a number of tv documentaries featuring leading medical profs in endocrinology in favour of AAS.
I actually asked my doc what his view is on me using and he said there is no problem; its quite safe, just avoid orals(MY liver not the hottest - too much whisky:laugh: Gama GT - had to slow down on the sauce) and use a reputable brand of test - like sustenon.

Martin you are making too many assumptions about the qualifications of the some of the individuals on this site mine included. Firstly I was referring to GP's not specialists. So read. Secondly if you are going to tell me that your 60 old GP has the faintest clue what is happening in Sport Medicine-well you believe that. Thirdly what are you trying to say?- you just proved and disproved your own statement regarding cancer and test- pick a side make up your own mind and stick to it.

Your not impressing anyone by making sweeping statements about people, products and intensions on a site that is geared towards putting information about there about a Taboo subject that ultimately helps people. So if you cannot add something positive or at least constructive criticism, well what are you doing on the site? Are you trying to piss people off? Push an agenda? Really I would love to know? Since nobody here has gotten personal except you don’t be surprised when you get flamed…

Look, I doubt injecting any chemical into your body can be considered safe, but HRT doses are also much lower than a steroid cycle for a bodybuilder. Testosterone Cyp/Eth is normally given at 200mg every 4 weeks. At those doses I don't think we can really talk about huge health risks since it just replaces what a health male testis would produce, except that Test Cyp/Eth aromatizes and produces more Estrogens than normal. At those doses you would get more of the benefit than the risk. BUT, at 500mg/every 4 days, the risks do increase dramatically. A certain study (can’t remember the reference) once looked at dose depended side effects (From heart, to liver etc) of Testosterone Cyp in long time Bodybuilders. The risks were minimal at even 200mg-300/week but increased steeply. I’ll have to see if I can dig up this paper somewhere.

I went and looked up the studies and the relationship of Testosterone and Prostate Cancer and it seems there is no link, but I don’t know at what doses the Testosterone was used. Do you maybe have a complete study where you can check up on this?

LOL, I'm definitely not talking about my 60 year old GP, no. Most of them don’t keep with the times and have no clue. There are however 60 year old GP’s that do.

If you read my post (not the one where I flamed you) I didn’t attack anyone, I just made a statement about gear. I have had contact with pharma companies before and I just shared my experience with them, so yes indeed I have something to share.

Also, you can see, I do and try and quote papers from medical journals, so I’m not giving some stupid comment based on air.
And yes, it seems at HRT doses, exogenous Testosterone can’t be linked to prostate cancer.

No they don’t not any straight thinking one. First, let’s just look at the risk of cancer in older patients and then evaluated what the introduction of Testosterone would mean. It means throwing petrol on a fire.

Just to correct my own comment, I should have said, HRT doesn't cause cancer (since there is no link) but actually it’s like throwing petrol on a fire, if the patient already has cancer and doesn't know it, or a cyst, etc. So, lol, MxT, I picked a side

Does testosterone make the cancer grow quicker? How's that?

Some (I still have to check which types of cancer) have hormone receptors which cause the cancer to grow. Prostate cancer has such receptors. Since Testosterone is a hormone, it will grow these types of cancer