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29 Aug 2013 20:09 #149327 by Koe007
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29 Aug 2013 21:39 #149338 by admin
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It's not a pill koe, it's baby juice.
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30 Aug 2013 00:53 #149347 by vinna152
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This is semi-related to the topic I believe? But can anyone point me in the direction of unsalted full fat grass-fed butter? I'm trying some new coffee out and would really like pure butter.

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30 Aug 2013 07:15 - 30 Aug 2013 07:57 #149348 by admin
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vinna152 wrote: This is semi-related to the topic I believe? But can anyone point me in the direction of unsalted full fat grass-fed butter? I'm trying some new coffee out and would really like pure butter.


Yes, your local super-market. Bought some earlier the week. Not sure how you feed butter with grass though?

EDIT: Look for clover's springbok butter. May I ask why it's important to have butter from cows only grazing on grass? The truth is that cows that only eat grass are unhealthy and there will be little protein or butter fat in their milk, so you are essentially getting a product from an animal that are in poor condition.
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30 Aug 2013 07:27 #149349 by p1et
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30 Aug 2013 18:36 #149373 by Theodoric
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vinna152 wrote: This is semi-related to the topic I believe? But can anyone point me in the direction of unsalted full fat grass-fed butter? I'm trying some new coffee out and would really like pure butter.


You put butter in your coffee?

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30 Aug 2013 19:00 #149375 by admin
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Theodoric wrote:

vinna152 wrote: This is semi-related to the topic I believe? But can anyone point me in the direction of unsalted full fat grass-fed butter? I'm trying some new coffee out and would really like pure butter.


You put butter in your coffee?


Butter roasting coffee maybe.

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01 Sep 2013 11:04 #149413 by vinna152
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Yup, make coffee and blend butter into it :D But not instant coffee though.

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10 Dec 2014 20:02 #178509 by Ondier
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admin wrote: I’m pretty much a colostrum expert and drank it many times before. It’s basically nature’s mass gainer and it’s far better than anything we humans can artificially create at present. (I don’t think that is even possible...)

The high lactose levels are a drawback though and many people’s stomachs will not cope well at all. It’s also not going to be something you want to drink when dieting.

Here is the problem though, I will NOT drink any colostrum unless I personally picked the cow or goat and did the milking myself. You really want to be sure you know what you are getting and be sure that the cow doesn’t have mastitis or other mammary disease.

The colostrum you get on the first day is the strongest, but sometimes contain a little blood, so I always preferred the second and third day’s colostrum. It should be nice and yellow with no solid or slimy chunks (mastitis). Should also not be watery as that is a sign of disease.

Your friend is a very brave man to drink the colostrum you buy from an agricultural cooperative. If it’s still liquid, it’s likely from a local farmer and you never know how hygienic it is. Usually you will milk a cow by hand after calving and freeze the extra colostrum when you need it later or you give/sell it to other farmers that need it for calves who’s mothers have no colostrum.

If you can get clean colostrum go for it, but it’s not easy to come by on a regular basis. We used to have 250 dairy cattle and even with that number you will have a hard time getting a constant supply.


Good evening Admin

I would like to tap into your expertise and the minds of the other science brains on this subject please. I received samples today of three different stages of Colostrum. Frozen in cube sizes. I'm very interested and keen to learn more. I don't know if it is only Colostrum in three different stages or if there were any other processes added. I know it is not pasteurized and it is "raw".

The 1st one she called 1st Milk, which is self explainable I think. It is all clean, smells nice and went down well. It is light cream in color and I saw yellow lipids (I think this is what it is) or blotches in the cubes. The 2nd one she called Serum or Whey Serum. and the 3rd one Serum 2 or Casein Serum.

This is the info that was sent to me last night before our meeting this morning:

"Hi there here is some reading so you understand some of the "gumpf" tomorrow. Our very unique herd of A2 type Jersey / Guernsey / Brahman cross dairy cattle. The three different breeds (and several generations) produce high levels of Tryptophan-GIP-GH-IGF-1-mTORC1. This amino acid is the precursor to Growth Hormones found in concentration in colostrum (first milk) in other breeds of cattle ONLY for approximately 60 hours after birthing. Tryptophan- also undoubtedly associated with insulin regulation, so is a natural fat burner, especially noted in insulin resistant subjects. It also signals serotonin uptake and then melatonin. Some Subjects with low serotonin levels have reported a light, gradual feeling of euphoria. And most reported improved sleep. You will also see a miraculous drop in size of distended stomachs. There is a very good scientific explanation for this which l will explain tomorrow. Until then"

She also told me about a well known Bulls Rugby player (I'll keep his name out of this to protect him) who started to use this, as well as a junior bulls player. She says these guys both picked up 1.5kg in the first week since they started to use it. They are on week 2 now. Both of these guys do weight training every day, rugby practise every afternoon and weights or cardio at night again. So I don't believe it would be fat that was gained with that amount of training.
Another "subject" that does MMA has been doing it for 4 weeks now I think. Also added 1.5kg a week to his frame. She also told me that the whole Shark team jumped on the wagon too and are also on Colostrum now which they get from a KZN farmer.

She will email me more info which I will add to this post. SHe will also send me the lab reports with everything that was found in the different serums.

I will also use it for the next three to four weeks without using any other whey / casein powders / CLA oils and track my own progress and add it on here too..

Do you want me to start a new thread Admin?

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10 Dec 2014 20:39 - 10 Dec 2014 20:46 #178511 by admin
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The 1st milk is the one you are looking for.

I'm not sure, but the Whey Serum and Casein Serum sounds like byproducts left over from cheese manufacturing or after separating the cream from the milk. It would be nice to see tests on the composition, but I think the concentrations of Whey and Casein could be on the low side and lactose might be high.
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10 Dec 2014 21:09 #178512 by Ondier
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Tnx my broer

She said she will mail it all to me. I literally was on a high after taking the serum 1. It felt like I took a sip of a shooter or a pull from a dagga zol. That didn't have much of a distinct dairy taste. Tasted quite neutral. That was before my workout.

Had a good intense session and crazy pumps. I had a little Vitargo and BCCA and L Glutamine intra -Workout. I know the Vitargo and the BCAA helps with the pump and the increased energy but today felt surreal. I don't know if it is able to kick in that fast and if it is only placebo effect.

I genuinely felt like 'n kalf met 'n bokspring B)

Post workout I had another Serum 1 and a 1st Milk. The 1st Milk has got a bit of a sour taste. But all good overall. I get :sick: very easily. But I didn't have a problem to stomach this- And I took it with half a glass of water only.

Admin I see you had a progress thread on your own Colostrum use but it was around 2008 and the site says the link that I clicked on is no longer valid or too old.

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