Please help a beginner out here!!

Hay peepz, I'm {REMOVED}. I'm 17 and started the gyming business bout a year ago. I'm using Creatine HCL at the moment but don't seem to see an improvement. I was wondering what supplements you guys suggest I use to help muscle growth. ( keep in mind I have a limited budget...)

DJ Demonian wrote: Hay peepz, I'm {REMOVED}. I'm 17 and started the gyming business bout a year ago. I'm using Creatine HCL at the moment but don't seem to see an improvement. I was wondering what supplements you guys suggest I use to help muscle growth. ( keep in mind I have a limited budget...)

Generally bodybuilding is not a cheap sport IMO. Your diet and training will be the most important, supplements (except whey) don't do much but I do use some: Whey protein, Creatine Mono, Branch Chain Amino Acids and a Preworkout. Perhaps post your diet and training and lets start there.

Training : 5 days a week 1 hour boxing, 1 hour weight lifting
3 days a week 1 hour leg lifting
Sometimes I just go cycling for 10 km

Diet : 6 egg whites and 2 egg yolks every morning with Whey toast.
Monday - tuna, salmon, and veggies, 3 baked potatoes
Tuesday - Spaghetti, mince and green veggies
Wednesday - Noodles, Steak, Biltong, 2 baked potatoes
Thursday - Rice, Chicken, Veggies
Friday - Salmon, Rice, Kingklip, 1 baked potatoes
Saturday - non diet
Sunday - Rice, Chicken, Green veggies and potato

Every day I take 3800mg Creatine HCL

Just trying to understand the way your wrote this.
You gym 5 days a week for 1 hour at a time?
You box daily for an hour
3 days a week 1 hour leg lifting?

As for you diet can you elaborate as to how many meals per day and what they contain. Just give Monday as an example because tuna, salmon and vegies with potato does not mean much.

DJ Demonian wrote: Training : 5 days a week 1 hour boxing, 1 hour weight lifting
3 days a week 1 hour leg lifting
Sometimes I just go cycling for 10 km

Diet : 6 egg whites and 2 egg yolks every morning with Whey toast.
Monday - tuna, salmon, and veggies, 3 baked potatoes
Tuesday - Spaghetti, mince and green veggies
Wednesday - Noodles, Steak, Biltong, 2 baked potatoes
Thursday - Rice, Chicken, Veggies
Friday - Salmon, Rice, Kingklip, 1 baked potatoes
Saturday - non diet
Sunday - Rice, Chicken, Green veggies and potato

Every day I take 3800mg Creatine HCL

Hey u supposed to be 18 to join here my pal
go read the diet stickies it will give u a better idea ...whey PWO with dextrose ...dont expect much from creatine..it helps with strengh but not mind blowing and I would stick to mono..cheaper
the rest are all advertising B/S that make big claims that u wont even get from AAS.
Diet training hard and good genes ..if u dont have good genes then get used to getting to YOUR personal best....

If you aren't growing, eat more clean food bud. This might mean you keep eating when you are already feeling stuffed. You are a very active guy and it is going to be harder to build size with all that exercise. You need more calories. This won't be what you want to hear but the answer is food, not supplements. The only supplement you need is whey protein, then maybe some creatine.

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DJ Demonian wrote: Training : 5 days a week 1 hour boxing, 1 hour weight lifting
3 days a week 1 hour leg lifting
Sometimes I just go cycling for 10 km

I'm with Fillet on this one, you have to admit you put your training in a very ambiguous manner. Can you be more specific?

DJ Demonian wrote: Diet : 6 egg whites and 2 egg yolks every morning with Whey toast.
Monday - tuna, salmon, and veggies, 3 baked potatoes
Tuesday - Spaghetti, mince and green veggies
Wednesday - Noodles, Steak, Biltong, 2 baked potatoes
Thursday - Rice, Chicken, Veggies
Friday - Salmon, Rice, Kingklip, 1 baked potatoes
Saturday - non diet
Sunday - Rice, Chicken, Green veggies and potato

That also makes it seem like you eat only two meals a day?

Every day I take 3800mg Creatine HCL

You say you haven't seen much improvement, but how long have you been using it? Also, as mike123 said, use creatine monohydrate instead, And then as Muscleaddict said, most important supplement is whey protein, followed by creatine. But good eating and a proper training regimen is a must.

Give us a detailed decription of what your diet and training looks like.

Also, body stats might help, (height, weight, bodyfat %) as well as the goals you're trying to achieve.

Thnx Muscleaddict, I had thoughts about it being the food. I'll look into whey protein instead of other supplements.

My training:
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday's, I do 1 hour boxing and 1 hour Weight lifting, such as Bench presses etc.
Monday, Wednesday, Saturday's I do 1 hour legs in the gym or else I'd just go cycling for 10km.
Sometimes I do a full body workout on a Sunday, depends on how much time I've got on my hands.

Is this Training enough or should I increase the time I spend at the gym everyday? I'm considering 100% Whey Protein

I did boxing for years and battled to put on the weight as the training is so intense... Your training is all over the place my dude. What are your goals? Fitness freak? Bodybuilder?

What Fillet said, what are your goals? If you're looking to gain muscle, I'd say you're really overtraining.