pre, intra & post workout

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15 Oct 2009 14:17 #25866 by Jayman
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hey guys, a little confused as to the best choice regarding this subject.
I have always used whey post workout (with no added simple carbs) and a pre-workout supp. like explode/crea-pump.
recently, however, I have started adding simple carbs and BCAA's to the mix. So on an average day I have been mixing my crea-pump with my cytomaize to dring before and during training and then having my whey afterwards as usual.
anyway what I wanna know is whether the cytomaize will be a better post workout drink than the whey? (coz it has whey isolate, hydrolised whey and concentrate as well as waxy maize startch)
and also whether BCAA's will be better for during my workout?
(been researching the BCAA bit and apparently a study that was conducted not too long ago proved that BCAA's during a workout produced superior gains as apposed to whey or a carb based drink)

help will as always be much appreciated guys :)

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15 Oct 2009 14:24 #25871 by UltimateThug
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I'm glad you asked this question especialy with the Cytomaize.... It doesn't show how much Protein you getting, so just in case I've been taking Isopro aftwerwards as well (Whey Isolate) (They do say 5500mg of the matrix, but inludes other ingredients)

Why they don't indicate the amount of protein, or anything for that matter, is beside me...

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15 Oct 2009 14:28 #25874 by Jayman
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I'm using the isopro now also :)
but reason I asked was coz of the addition of the simple carbs

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15 Oct 2009 14:36 #25881 by UltimateThug
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Adding simple carbs to get the insulin spike is needed, one of the few times it is advised to have simple carbs.

With the BCAAs my pre and dutring workout shake I add BCAAs to, I will be adding it to my post soon as well to try it out.

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15 Oct 2009 15:26 #25906 by Inja
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Pre-workout and post-workout should contain whey. Pre-workout should have longer carb sources to fuel the whole workout while post-workout should have shorter sugars to spike insulin and drive muscle nutrient uptake and recovery. BCAA's if taken should be taken pre- and post- workout. I also prefer to take my creatine post-workout as this is when I guarentee insulin will drive uptake. I feel to much is wasted if I take it pre-workout.

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15 Oct 2009 15:46 #25909 by Jayman
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thanx Inja :)
so I'll have my whey 30min before as usual and my BCAA's (should've mentioned they're in liquid form) during and the cytomaize after :)

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15 Oct 2009 16:16 #25917 by Inja
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Jay bro,
Thing is, you really need to get maximum protein in during that magic 30minutes post workout when your body is screaming for nutrition. 5g of whey aint gonna cut it. You do need to add in the extra whey post workout as well like you mentioned above.

If you can only have whey at one time interval around training I'd opt for a full meal before training and the whey after training.

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16 Oct 2009 08:01 #25970 by Jayman
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thanx guys :) have a fair idea of what best to do now :)

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16 Oct 2009 08:07 #25974 by Barbell
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Inja wrote:

Pre-workout and post-workout should contain whey. Pre-workout should have longer carb sources to fuel the whole workout while post-workout should have shorter sugars to spike insulin and drive muscle nutrient uptake and recovery. BCAA's if taken should be taken pre- and post- workout. I also prefer to take my creatine post-workout as this is when I guarentee insulin will drive uptake. I feel to much is wasted if I take it pre-workout.


would it be fair then to have your creatine (100% pure) with about 200ml fruit juice after a workout?

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16 Oct 2009 09:10 #25981 by Sting
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Barbell wrote:

would it be fair then to have your creatine (100% pure) with about 200ml fruit juice after a workout?

Yep

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17 Oct 2009 00:03 #26057 by Inja
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Barbell wrote:

would it be fair then to have your creatine (100% pure) with about 200ml fruit juice after a workout?


Just make sure there is enough carb to shoot up the insulin

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