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24 Dec 2009 21:32 #31862 by alliz
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I am 25 years old and are playing sports. I have been part of a proffesional set up through sports and is actively training since 18 years old. I want to start using steroids because i can t compete with my fellow competitors because 1) they used steroids already, 2) talent is not enough anymore and i want to be the best! Is there any advice how i must start because i have done a lot of research about the steroid usage but it all comes to different ideas from different people. Just keep in mind, i have used supplemets before like creatine, muscle fuel, zma but it all did not last long. I want advice on how quick i can start and with what?
weight: 100kg
Height: 185 cm
colesterol level: healthy
not insulien dependant
very good health
My target is to get very lean quickly and to get strong and fast again!

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24 Dec 2009 23:24 #31868 by andre300
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What do SAPS think?

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25 Dec 2009 08:33 #31874 by alliz
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saps? what do they have to do with this?

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25 Dec 2009 10:57 #31879 by vega5
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What sport are you competing in? That will determine what muti you'd use!

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25 Dec 2009 12:52 #31882 by alliz
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rugby

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25 Dec 2009 13:08 #31883 by BB_guy
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"My target is to get very lean quickly and to get strong and fast again!"

I would split the 2 goals up. First lose the weight and then go on a basic test cycle. Its gonna be hard cutting and trying to gain decent strength at the same time. Plus there are benefits to dieting first.

Clen or ephedra will help towards cutting when your diet and training are good.

And test for 1st cycle. Simple, safe and effective.
Will aid recovery and help add mass and strength.

ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ

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25 Dec 2009 19:30 #31891 by alliz
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can you tell we what i must use for better rugby performance body?

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26 Dec 2009 00:01 #31902 by Inja
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He just did

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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26 Dec 2009 09:19 #31908 by alliz
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i understand everything up to Test the first cycle, because i train hard and have a good diet but i have limited time ( 6-11 weeks) before i must meet my goals before i go pro.

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26 Dec 2009 14:58 #31917 by BB_guy
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If you going pro then you will be tested for anabolics and possibly stimulants etc.

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26 Dec 2009 19:26 #31919 by SNOK1986
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What position do u play?

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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26 Dec 2009 20:57 #31923 by N3rd
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Test = Testosterone.

Dream BIG, one Rep at a time.

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27 Dec 2009 01:49 #31932 by Inja
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Propionate for shorter cycles

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Its just my point of view

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27 Dec 2009 08:48 #31939 by alliz
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i play in the middle field( centre and flyhalf ) about the testing, you do not have to worry about that, almost every pro out there must use some sort of roid.

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27 Dec 2009 11:33 #31941 by vega5
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alliz wrote:

i understand everything up to Test the first cycle, because i train hard and have a good diet but i have limited time ( 6-11 weeks) before i must meet my goals before i go pro.


AAS aren't wonder drugs!!! It takes time to find what works for you. I'd say you left it a bit late!

If you have to use something now I'd say test prop only! You'd have to be spot on with your PCT as IMO your performance will fall slightly when coming off especially wanting to turn pro and stay at peak performance.

Your in a particularly bad spot because you want to turn pro on juice but you'll have to stay at that level and IMPROVE so you'll have to stay on juice!

Good luck!

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27 Dec 2009 11:55 #31945 by superbeast2
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the pro rugby guys i know dont. If your going to play provincial or higher u can expect to be tested every 2 weeks. If you get caught using something like tribulus or zma u are banned! The same goes for powerlifting in western cape all comps will now be tested events.

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28 Dec 2009 19:07 #31974 by alliz
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If i use testo for 3 months can i use it with d-bol ? Do my post cycle with novadex and clomid? and how much when?

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29 Dec 2009 09:27 #31989 by vega5
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Are you really willing to risk your career on this?

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29 Dec 2009 13:49 #32004 by alliz
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thanx for the help guys!

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29 Dec 2009 14:31 #32005 by tiny
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alliz wrote:

If i use testo for 3 months can i use it with d-bol ? Do my post cycle with novadex and clomid? and how much when?


I suggest 600mg of test/wk,shot twice per week for the 12 weeks.You can use Dbol for the 1st 4 wks to give yourself a boost before the test kicks in,which takes around 4 wks.You only need the nolvadex,not clomid.Nolva at 40mg/ed for 1st 2wks of pct,then 20mg/ed for last 2 weeks.

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