pre workout supp?

hey guys.

i was wondering what members are using these days. Just a protein shake, or no boosters or maybe ur own concoction.
reason im asking im looking for something new. i wake up at 4 and train 4:45 in the mornig so looking for something to wake me up and give enough energy for workout. i have read that all these no booster are'nt good for u in the long run ( dont know if theres truth behing this). At the moment im only drinking two cups of strong coffee before gym. And then i drink some bcaa while training but thats it.

thanx Fakey_AK

fakey to be totally honest i never had a pre workout that gave me that WOW energy boost. The one that i used that gave me a little surge is BSN No-explode, the one that i gained the best results to train natural was musclesience extreme hardcore. And the latest one i used was WAR supplements grenade hardcore. And ja uhm it gave me heavy twitches from all the caffeine. Tasted one of my mates pre workouts it was a mix off ssn No booster, shock therapy and Optimum nutritions new pre workout and CELLMASS from BSN ( he says it gives him almost the same surge as heat ).

So i guess it depends on budget and how you respond to stimulants and everything.

Im not to worried about no boosters and stuff, plus i get a good pump naturally. As for stims im not sure. My body is funny in that way. I built up tolerence fast but then again if i dont take any stims my body reboots fast too.

the last pre workout i used was muscle marinate from purus labs. The energy from that was insane but on the downside i felt drugged even a hour or two after training.

i know some ppl just up for some carbs and protein before workout for energy.

Personal opinion preworkout supps like no boosters r getting to exp and not worth it anymore.

will c what the resr have to say

thanx for input

Hi Fakey, I normally take a serving whey + 20g waxy maize and also 40g carbs from Energade mixed with Arginine and BCAA. This seems to do the trick in the energy department.

I also train that time in the morning so I can relate.

Fakey:

You know my dislike for sups - i am the preacher for own concoctions and diet to sort out energy but go to the shops and grab a little pre-workout called Jack3d by USP>>>>

HOLY SHIT!!!

enough said:)

Peace

@vega, sounds interesting, how long before u train do take it?

@Mr Moose. Have read some great reviews about it aswell, but i dont trust those review. I still belive its the manufactures that right them. But will give it a try later this year if u think its worth it.

Yea trust those reviews are mostly bullshit! Ha ha but pre's are always made up with the biggest hype - NO Xplode worked and the others were average but Jack3d is on its own little level trust me!

Mine has looked like this for the past 8 days.
>5g glutamine
>15ml efx liquid aminos
>2 scoops Jack3d
> All in an energade

Some of the best workouts in my life;)

Peace

I drink it when I get up, then get dressed and make my way to gym. So I estimate anything from 20mins to 40mins depending on my speed that morning.

Currently what is getting quite a few good reviews is Muscle Marinade from Purus Labs... I want to try it..
I have tried Nitro Ignite, NO Xplode, Creapump, Xplode, Super Pump etc etc and none have really worked for me...

havent used the jack3d moose is talking about, but if you have a lot of $$$ try gaspari plasma jet - it does more for me than any eca and NO product by a mile! very very very strong shit!
also, because you train so early you can try suppl sa's caffiene caps with your protein and carbs, its cheap and works better (and much easier!) than 5 cups of coffee!

Mr_SA wrote:

Currently what is getting quite a few good reviews is Muscle Marinade from Purus Labs... I want to try it..
I have tried Nitro Ignite, NO Xplode, Creapump, Xplode, Super Pump etc etc and none have really worked for me...

I've used that muscle marinade, it works in giving u energy....actually insane energy. Downside u feel drugged and not to cool afterwards. personally wont get it again.

Mr Moose wrote:

Yea trust those reviews are mostly bullshit! Ha ha but pre's are always made up with the biggest hype - NO Xplode worked and the others were average but Jack3d is on its own little level trust me!

Mine has looked like this for the past 8 days.
>5g glutamine
>15ml efx liquid aminos
>2 scoops Jack3d
> All in an energade

Some of the best workouts in my life;)

Peace

Moose man i also read up on the jack3d. It sounds great. Even the usn rep at the dischem told me its in a category of its own. If you use 2 scoops that would give you about 10g. That means you get 25 servings from the container. At R399 it sounds expensive but will def give it a try

Something off another Forum:

"Jack3d when it first came out was actually pretty decent product and many people liked it. I had to take 3 scoops to feel anything and even then it was a good product for me but not great. Some RAVED about it. HOWEVER, they changed the formula some and took something out (can't remember what) and it was never the same. Even people that loved it were not impressed with the new version and this is the sentiment shared by many."

Maybe the reviews are older (although most reviews were in 2010). However, the few guys that told me the product rocks all started using it in the last month or 2.

Its quite alot to fork out for a pre gym kick so i really hope its worth it

Ill be using Jack3d today - got from dischem yesterday. Will let you know if it does what they say it does..seems alot of folks are raving about it. Will try 2 scoops and hopefully i will be lifting the roof off the gym...lol

Tried Jack3d yesterday at 2 scoops and it did Jack4okol for me. Will try 3 scoops today. I seem to be resistant to any kind of stimulants they make. Think i should get those 1 hit sachets of each brand and see if any give me that edge im looking for.

I went back to dischem this morning to check what pre workout sups is available. The guy in the sups dep who raved about Jack3d helped me. I told him about the story that the formula ellegedly changed. He then told me that this makes sense because he used a couple of the sample sachets and it was the best thing ever. Bought the product couple of weeks ago and it doesnt compare at all.

So i checked around and looks like the following might be a option:
1. No Shotgun (bit to expensive if you ask me)
2. Superpump (good reviews and the pricing is not so bad if you use 20g per serving)
3. No Vapour (reviews on this product is not good at all)
4. Optimum nutritions NO vassive
5. creapump (used this before and its not so bad)
6. Ganic F (good reviews and extremely well priced)

Any of you oaks have experience with the above products and what would you recommend.

Im def working plamsajet in their somewhere (by the way)

Im currently using Met-rx Amped RTD. 595ml bottle, half before workout and the other half during. I havent tried any of the other pre-workout supps but this seems to give me a great boost, although I have heard of some people complaining about light-headedness but I've never experienced it. Its a bit pricey but seems to get the job done.

I also go with Met-rx Nitro Pump for the, well pumps...

Where do you guys get the 1 serving sachets? I would love to try the pre workout sups and then buy. I just dont really see i sachet servings for sale except for usn nitro anabolic which i sure as hell wont try even if it was free

MSM man sorry to hear that>>

ABC01 used all of the ones you mentioned at one time or another (not full tubs of each dont worry).

And none of them compare to Jack3d > being 100% honest here, the only other ones that even have an effect are NO.XPLODE and Super Pump 250.... Ganic did alright aswel but gave me head rush, stomach ache and tastes like the arse end of something you would rather flush than put anywhere near your mouth!

Peace

Select good sups stores have the single serving: Just ask the guys behind the counter to help you out with some samples! No major like chemists or dischems etc will have!
Peace

Mr Moose wrote:

MSM man sorry to hear that>>

ABC01 used all of the ones you mentioned at one time or another (not full tubs of each dont worry).

And none of them compare to Jack3d > being 100% honest here, the only other ones that even have an effect are NO.XPLODE and Super Pump 250.... Ganic did alright aswel but gave me head rush, stomach ache and tastes like the arse end of something you would rather flush than put anywhere near your mouth!

Peace

Did you buy the jack3d lately? Looks like internationally the best sellers are Jack3d; NO xplode and superpump 250.
By the way i see the superpump 250 800g tub sells for 32 dollars. If you go on this morning's rand/dollar exchange (R7-73 to the dollar) it gives you R247.36 per tub. Sjoe!!! Maybe it was a special who knows but is everybody reading this also getting a burning sensation in the asshole region :huh:

Tried the jack3d yesterday at 3 scoops an hour before workout and seemed to work better. No major rush just sustained energy release through my workout. But at 3 scoops that is 15 servings and a bit too pricey for my liking considering i didnt become a savage beast in the gym plus about 6-7 hours afterward i started getting very dizzy and off balance for about 2 hours...weird. I think the only thing that works for me is good solid meal about 2 hours before training and 5weeks into a cycle..lol

ABC01 wrote:

By the way i see the superpump 250 800g tub sells for 32 dollars. If you go on this morning's rand/dollar exchange (R7-73 to the dollar) it gives you R247.36 per tub. Sjoe!!! Maybe it was a special who knows but is everybody reading this also getting a burning sensation in the asshole region :huh:

If you want to work out what they should be charging, multiply by 10-12. Anything over that then either the distributor or the store is effing you in the A.

The Optimum Store in Morningside shops wanted to charge me R700 for Jack3d, which goes for $27 on bb.com.

Typical J double O's!

Ha ha BigDave they learned their lesson, Prices were dropped around a week ago>

But yea they pretty pricey!

Peace