Creatine and glutamine together

Hey. Some people say that they compete for the same receptors. I just want to know from you guys what you say. I have googled it and got mixed results...

From what I understand, the transport systems used to shuttle glutamine and creatine into the muscles are different so personally I dont see a problem with combining the two

from what I know, if its true or not, glutamine increases your muscle cell nutrition intake (hense it increases recovery) and so at optimum dosage you will get a 'fullness' look. so taking creo with or just after glutamine will increase the amount of creo absorbed into your muscles.

I could be wrong, but this is what I was old.

Most articles I've read say glutamine should be taken on a empty stomach. So would try space it out.

I only really use glutamine because of LSJ's prices... There is very little proof that orally administered glutamine actualy gets to where it needs to and most of it gets converter to glucose. The studies done with recovery, especialy patients who have had operations etc. , glutamine was administered through a drip.

I think that make s it worst as i think you should never have an empty stomach.....

Fox wrote: I think that make s it worst as i think you should never have an empty stomach.....

Makes no sense what you saying bud?

How do you space your meals, mine is every three hours, so I have my last meal 2 hours before gym, 1hour-45 minutes before gym I would take glutamine, 30min before have pre-workout...

The problem is glutamine has a high conversion rate, which makes it useless, read a study where if you take glutamine with food or especialy with insulin spiking carbs as you would with creatine almost all of it gets converted, so you taking expensive glucose... The only theoretical way of taking it is on a empty stomach or as empty as possible...

UltimateThug wrote:

Fox wrote: I think that make s it worst as i think you should never have an empty stomach.....

Makes no sense what you saying bud?

How do you space your meals, mine is every three hours, so I have my last meal 2 hours before gym, 1hour-45 minutes before gym I would take glutamine, 30min before have pre-workout...

The problem is glutamine has a high conversion rate, which makes it useless, read a study where if you take glutamine with food or especialy with insulin spiking carbs as you would with creatine almost all of it gets converted, so you taking expensive glucose... The only theoretical way of taking it is on a empty stomach or as empty as you can possible...

This is why i don't see the use of glutamine. The stuff is really not necessary in ur arsenal, rather just use creatine. "MY opinion"

I'm with you on that Fakey... I'm yet to see conclusive evidence showing the benefits of supplementing with glutamine besides intavenously in hospital patients.

Thug: would it not take longer than 2 - 3 hours for your stomach to empty out, after all thats why its best to eat so often as it keeps you body working to digest the food thus keeping your metabolism going.

Fox wrote: I'm with you on that Fakey... I'm yet to see conclusive evidence showing the benefits of supplementing with glutamine besides intavenously in hospital patients.

Thug: would it not take longer than 2 - 3 hours for your stomach to empty out, after all thats why its best to eat so often as it keeps you body working to digest the food thus keeping your metabolism going.

Its theoretical, after an hour the food would be at a different stage of your gastrointestinal track, and this is supposed to be sufficient enough time to increase the glutamine absorbtion. But this hasn't been tested and the merit of the article I can't vouch for. Guess if you gonna take it this is the best you can do.

My last meal of the day is whey and peanutbutter, so thinking it should clear quicker...

Look, its cheap and I'm always going on about not accepting anecdotal, but I have seen a slight decrease in recovery since stopping, might also just be because I'm not taking creatine since I've gone keto.

Its the same with ZMA/Gabba you suppose to take them on empty stomach and all I can do is try space them out 10 minutes apart before having my final protein shake....

how long does it take for glutamin to convert?will it convert in water?
then one can mix it in water,and drink during the night or whenever u are not gonna eat but have an empty tummy

I you pick up any Flex, ME or similar mag you will see that all the pro's list Glutamine in their top 10 supps list. I also qoute the following from the "American Journal of Clinical Nutrition"

Ninety minutes after the glutamine administration load both plasma bicarbonate concentration and circulating plasma growth hormone concentration were elevated. These findings demonstrate that a surprisingly small oral glutamine load is capable of elevating alkaline reserves as well as plasma growth hormone.
www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/61/5/1...0&resourcetype=HWCIT

LSJ wrote: I you pick up any Flex, ME or similar mag you will see that all the pro's list Glutamine in their top 10 supps list. I also qoute the following from the "American Journal of Clinical Nutrition"

Ninety minutes after the glutamine administration load both plasma bicarbonate concentration and circulating plasma growth hormone concentration were elevated. These findings demonstrate that a surprisingly small oral glutamine load is capable of elevating alkaline reserves as well as plasma growth hormone.
www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/61/5/1...0&resourcetype=HWCIT

And this is why I love this forum... thanks LSJ, busy reading now...

Do the pros mix it into their shakes? How and when do they take it?