what can i take

hi there

i am currently trying to lose weight and build muscle. as being a diabetic could i use creatine or a pre work out drink? im only using evox 100% whey at the moment.

thanx

You can only do one at a time... build muscle or lose weight!!
You need to choose.

Post up your stats.

75kg. body fat 23%

on my weight training days could i also use the insulin post workout for some gains?

Type 1 or 2? Anyways you are already dependent on insulin now with having diabetes, dont go abusing it now just to make gains. The weight training will help you be more responsive to the insulin you take in general so that should benefit you already

type 1. thanx

Hrm.. I have not seen many over weight type 1 diabetics.

Are you controlling your sugars correctly? Are you chronic ? How many times a day do you inject, do you use short and long ? When do you use your long at night or during the day? What type of insulin are you using?

What does your diet look like and on a typical meal how many units would you normally inject, yes hard to say depending on what exercise you have done and what reading you where on prior to eating.. But please give me an example, eg: on 6.5 now going to a medium size pizza (which will shoot your sugars up for a long time) so you take how much insulin would you take...

Thanks

yes it is controlled now that i am not eating too much carbs, i am chronic injecting 4 times a day, i use novo rapid for short acting and protaphane for long acting the long acting i mix with the short acting in the morning and then long acting again before i sleep.

i dont have a planned out diet but i do watch it i normally have 12iu at a meal. on the pizza i would increase it to about 13iu

Ok, glad you taking control of yourself as the last thing you want to do is go blind or get a limb chopped off or even worse brain damage from the lows.

I believe a controlled diet where you are eating healthy and doing similar things each day, eg gym at this time eat at that time, etc. Will help you to be able to balance your sugars even better, unless of course you going through another hormonal change everything. How old are you as I have seen when you get around 23/24 you might start to struggle finding a balance with your readings again, but that is a phase that will wear out.

Another thing you might want to look at is an Insulin Pump as this way you will have better control and it will work in a similar way our pancreas works giving you lots of short bursts of insulin and you can then do away with the long term completely. The other benefit is it picks up on your body changes exactly like you would when you going into a low, things like your body starts to sweat, increased heart rate, etc.

This way you can stop worrying too much about the insulin side of things. I don't believe you get these machines that actually have a graphical glucose monitor so you will still need to test, then again they might have ones out by now.

I would recommend you go look at www.basicsupplements.co.za and use their whey protein why I recommend it is because I know it works for a few diabetics and doesn't touch their readings, I know we had some issues with Evox. Rather use the unflavoured whey.

Yes you are correct the insulin can be used post workout but for you it's a requirement not really and extra supplement.

If you look at my younger twin brothers 1 became diabetic around 5 years before the other, and if you look at the muscle difference between the 1 that is diabetic and the other who was not at the time you will see how shredded and built my brother who was the diabetic first.

I wouldn't try take to much insulin or you just going to run low, so just take the same amount of units you would if you wanted to get a reading around 4 to 6, I know its nearly impossible to draw enough units or chose the right amount to get a perfect reading and you nearly always have to counter it with something to push it up a bit more.

Once again I stress looking at that pump as this way you will find a more balanced reading and not be up at 20+ then drop down to 2. This way you not going to feel as crap all the time and your new love for the gym will start to really get those endorphins going and making you feel good.

Good luck bro, if you need anything else let me know..

hey thanx for the great advice and motivation that there are also other diabetic bodybuilders out there like your brothers, im 18 at the moment the pump is good but shit expensive, i do want to buy that raw whey heard so much good things about it and think it would be better for me all these other product use artificial shit and stuff that shouldnt even be in there. but im still not sure how much protein i can take because doctors say being diabetic too much protein causes stress on the kidneys

On a healthy body 2.5 grams of protein per kg is fine... If you have any issues with your kidneys then you can drop that down to 1.5 which is also enough to grow. I'm guessing at your age and managing your diabetes you don't have any kidney problems, no protein or blood in the urine? And if you really concerned about your kidneys stick to read meats 3 to 4 times a weak and look at using fish / chicken and getting the rest of your protein sources from dairy.