dosage for f*ck off fat

I'm sure FOF will be fine. Many pre workouts contain caffeine and Yohimbine isn't as harsh as clen. So it shouldn't be a problem. (I'm not sure on this so wait for inja, pump or DJ to verify). If I'm wrong please let me know

Stimulants and high intensity sports have been used together for years, but there is always risk. At the end the choice is yours. You know your body and you can feel the strain being put on your cardiovascular system. Don't turn a blind eye. If you have a history of some other problem like high blood pressure or irregular heart rhythms then rather stick to caffeine. But you can use stimulants for sport if you are careful, do not raise the dose higher than you need for the energy, and take appropriate breaks (which will keep receptors fresh and allow you to use the compound for sports continually). What helps here is that you only use it when you need it, on important sporting days, or practice once or twice a week. Monitor BP and heart rate.

You will find I am probably one of the more conservative people when it comes to stimulants because a heart attack is serious business. Others may feel I am over cautious?To me there is a reason these drugs were taken off or not approved for the OTC list, and I have read many cases over the years to support this in athletes.

I am not out to scare new guys and I still use these drugs very effectively, but I am always weary.

Just for an update....

Since adding 80mcg clen to my FOF I have lost 3kg in 2 weeks. Can really see a fast improvement since I started the Keto, FOF and clen mix. Took last FOF cap yesterday morning and now running LP yohimbine with the clen and Keto. Will probably go on for another 3 or 4 weeks before I stop keto. Weight at 112kg this morning and seeing abs!!!!

well done man keep that furnace burning

MCJ wrote: Just for an update....

Since adding 80mcg clen to my FOF I have lost 3kg in 2 weeks. Can really see a fast improvement since I started the Keto, FOF and clen mix. Took last FOF cap yesterday morning and now running LP yohimbine with the clen and Keto. Will probably go on for another 3 or 4 weeks before I stop keto. Weight at 112kg this morning and seeing abs!!!!

Awsome bud! Good feeling to find a combo that works for you. Advice from others is one thing but at end of the day we are all individuals who react different to substances. I'm keen to try FOF in my last 4 weeks of my cycle.

What is your bf now MCJ?

MCJ how are you running the Clen and yohimbine? Want to try that at the end of the year. Was thinking 2 weeks clen. 2 weeks yohimbine and so on. I know they do not target the same receptors, but I want to extend the cycle to say 8 weeks.

Have no idea about BF % at the moment. No one around here can do the measurements and I'm only getting a caliper in june. Was running the FOF and clen together. Clen I run two weeks on and two weeks off. But I won't suggest running Yohimbine on its own with clen. I think the FOF has much less yohimbine in than the pure forms like LP and Oraltech 10mg. As my FOF was finished yesterday morning I took one LP yohimbine @ 12:30. Trained legs at 1.30pm and almost puked my lungs out. Even missed the bloody toilet. LOL.

Anyway so I tried it again this morning. 10mg Yohimbine with 80mcg clen. Within an hour I was feeling funny and had constant goosebumps. Then I had an uncomfortable "high" feeling which I didn't like. It subsided around 12pm so haven't taken another Yohimbine. Today was last day on clen for two weeks and will use the yohimbine on its own in this period and then cycle the clen again after that but not together. But hey, maybe I'm just a lightweight

how many bottles of fof did you go through ?
I have 2 on the way !!

Just one ey. But feel keto is key

I can drop weight fairly easy ( with a clean diet ) just the last bit around the abs that is doesint want to move , hoping the fof will kick its ass !!

MCJ wrote: Have no idea about BF % at the moment. No one around here can do the measurements and I'm only getting a caliper in june. Was running the FOF and clen together. Clen I run two weeks on and two weeks off. But I won't suggest running Yohimbine on its own with clen. I think the FOF has much less yohimbine in than the pure forms like LP and Oraltech 10mg. As my FOF was finished yesterday morning I took one LP yohimbine @ 12:30. Trained legs at 1.30pm and almost puked my lungs out. Even missed the bloody toilet. LOL.

Anyway so I tried it again this morning. 10mg Yohimbine with 80mcg clen. Within an hour I was feeling funny and had constant goosebumps. Then I had an uncomfortable "high" feeling which I didn't like. It subsided around 12pm so haven't taken another Yohimbine. Today was last day on clen for two weeks and will use the yohimbine on its own in this period and then cycle the clen again after that but not together. But hey, maybe I'm just a lightweight

Try yohimbe in the mornings, just before fasted cardio.
It's out the system quite quickly, so then after cardio you take the clen which will keep metabolic rate elevated throughout the day.

took my first cap of fof this morning at 6. now i feel sleepy as hell. is this normal. i do feel n bit of a tingle but shit im battling to keep my eyes open.

Could be a crash from the caffeine. I never had this problem though. Many pre workouts that contain caffeine etc have a similar affect of drowsiness. I must once again add that FOF has much less yohimbine in it per cap than pure Yohimbine 10mg tabs/caps.

Did u maybe do any cardio this morning?

MCJ wrote: Could be a crash from the caffeine. I never had this problem though. Many pre workouts that contain caffeine etc have a similar affect of drowsiness. I must once again add that FOF has much less yohimbine in it per cap than pure Yohimbine 10mg tabs/caps.

Did u maybe do any cardio this morning?

no did not do any cardio. i wanted to see what the effects was on my body. feels almost like when you had a sugaar spike and then you come in for a hard landing. its almost 12 now and i still feel tired as hell. he he he. stil feel the tingle though. never had this before on any fat burning product.

Sounds like a good product but is it legal to use or is it a underground supplement?

underground.. can't really imagine Dischem promotions saying "come get your dose of Fuck off Fat!"

:lol:

Is it fine to use a pre workout containing stimulants while on FOF?

Can i cycle clen and fof weekly or should i cycle every 2 weeks ? whats better ?

I am beginning to think the 1 cap per day on the lable is not a misprint. My 2nd day on FOF and have to say its quit potent. I love good coffee but have not touched a cup since friday. I get a weird pain on the back of my head almost where the neck meets head. Could this be a tipe of "over stimulized" headache?

ABC01 wrote: Is it fine to use a pre workout containing stimulants while on FOF?

No that wouldn't be a wise idea