Ester length and aromatisation

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05 Jul 2012 20:56 #111968 by gorilla
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Which ester is least aromatisable?

I assuming prop, but whats the difference between cyp/ent and Supertest in terms of estro sides??

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06 Jul 2012 14:58 #112064 by Inja
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The esters are cleaved off before aromatisation occurs.
What gets aromatised is testosterone, whether it was originally linked to a propionate or decanoate ester on administration.

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06 Jul 2012 19:13 #112082 by gorilla
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But then why is prop used for cutting?

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06 Jul 2012 21:15 #112087 by Muscleaddict
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Coz it's easier to keep stable blood levels of testosterone with test prop. The more your test levels zigzag up and down, the more aromatisation you get when test levels spike. Which is why test suspension is still very bad as far as estrogen issues go even though it has no ester attached. Sudden spikes and drops in androgen levels always = more side effects.
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07 Jul 2012 16:32 #112120 by Heretic47
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@MA and Inja: could either of you suggest a place that I could find a graph of how blood levels peak and decline for specific esters? a plasma concentration vs time model?

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08 Jul 2012 13:27 #112133 by gorilla
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Heretic47 wrote:
sorry for the jack gorilla.


No probs good question :)

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08 Jul 2012 21:02 - 08 Jul 2012 22:21 #112147 by Muscleaddict
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Heretic47 wrote: @MA and Inja: could either of you suggest a place that I could find a graph of how blood levels peak and decline for specific esters? a plasma concentration vs time model?

sorry for the jack gorilla.


Sure, I will post some screenshot pics of graphs for various test esters and deca. It's in a PDF book I have. I'll post a new thread. ;)

EDIT: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/2-anabo...cg-absorption-graphs
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08 Jul 2012 21:36 #112150 by Yohimbe
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This is a pretty good app for cycle preps

www.anabolicsteroidcalculator.com/
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09 Jul 2012 07:05 #112161 by Heretic47
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thanks both of you.

Yohimbe, I'll have a look at that app later ;)

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10 Sep 2012 10:24 #121565 by beemer
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Muscleaddict wrote:

Heretic47 wrote: @MA and Inja: could either of you suggest a place that I could find a graph of how blood levels peak and decline for specific esters? a plasma concentration vs time model?

sorry for the jack gorilla.


Sure, I will post some screenshot pics of graphs for various test esters and deca. It's in a PDF book I have. I'll post a new thread. ;)

EDIT: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/2-anabo...cg-absorption-graphs


Thanks, just came acrooss now. But I'm abit confused.

The graph supports the fact that the half life of Testprop is 4.5 days. Why do we then pin EOD, instead of every 4 days?

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10 Sep 2012 10:42 #121568 by Muscleaddict
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beemer wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote:

Heretic47 wrote: @MA and Inja: could either of you suggest a place that I could find a graph of how blood levels peak and decline for specific esters? a plasma concentration vs time model?

sorry for the jack gorilla.


Sure, I will post some screenshot pics of graphs for various test esters and deca. It's in a PDF book I have. I'll post a new thread. ;)

EDIT: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/2-anabo...cg-absorption-graphs


Thanks, just came acrooss now. But I'm abit confused.

The graph supports the fact that the half life of Testprop is 4.5 days. Why do we then pin EOD, instead of every 4 days?


Blood levels of testosterone drop dramatically after 2 days with prop so you want to inject EOD to keep levels stable. Look at the graph on day 2.
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15 Sep 2012 22:01 #122328 by johnnyBolic
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The ester is the transport vehicle suspention/immediate Prop quicker?daily,and enanthate cyt 3to4weeks.Testosterone works on a pulsitory system and can spike intantly,also can drop rapidly.I think enanthate,or cyt.That's the foundation of solid base.Some?All pro's in sports that use testosterone are really never-off!!!!Lower yes,but never Really-off.

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