Itchi scalp while on cycle

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02 Sep 2012 09:52 #120617 by jvr
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I'm entering my 3rd week of test cyp cycle front loaded with Oral T-bol and running proviron through out.
(will do winny + proviron bridge)

Since week no.2 I'm experiencing this weird tingling/itchi sensation on my scalp and I'm sure it's getting worse.

Can any one explain what this might be. Did anyone experience similiar problems?
(Gorilla, Waldo, RVP did you experience any thing like this)


It's really annoying and I'm worried that this is the start of MPB.
I'm 31 years old and no signs of hair loss up until now. Did one other test cycle years ago. No problems then.(no proviron or tbol then)

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02 Sep 2012 13:59 #120625 by Theodoric
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Any cases of MPB in your family?

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03 Sep 2012 08:45 #120675 by aspoester
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I get the same and Considerably younger than you, it is unfortunately a sign of mpb. And the winny is really gonna play with dht levels just like the test will. I suggest you use other compunds to run during pct and stay clear of winny as that for me has the most profiund effect.

If i understand you right its almost a sunburn dry feeling on your scalp but it doesn't seem to subside ?

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03 Sep 2012 08:50 #120676 by jvr
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On my mums side all men lost their hair before 25 :( :( :(

On my dads side no issues at all - no mpb.

As mentioned at 31 years old I've experienced no issues with mpb.
I've read on a couple of U.S forums that the tingling sensation and itchiness is the start of hairloss.
This worries the shit out of me! : :(

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03 Sep 2012 09:05 - 03 Sep 2012 09:09 #120677 by admin
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jvr wrote: On my mums side all men lost their hair before 25 :( :( :(

On my dads side no issues at all - no mpb.

As mentioned at 31 years old I've experienced no issues with mpb.
I've read on a couple of U.S forums that the tingling sensation and itchiness is the start of hairloss.
This worries the shit out of me! : :(


If your grandfather on your mother's side lost his hair you will too I'm afraid.

EDIT: I read now that it's a little more complicated to determine whether you are genetically prone to baldness than my statement above. You still have a good chance of hairloss though.
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03 Sep 2012 21:28 #120758 by jvr
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Thanks admin and aspoester.


I believe proviron can also cause MPB due to it being a DHT derivative??? Do you agree?


The plan was to frontload with t.bol for 4,5 weeks. (In 3rd week now)
Cyp will be taken for 15 weeks and then for the bridge i wanted to take winny.
Proviron would have formed part through out cycle and bridge (21 weeks @40mg - LP )

Now is not the best time to loose my hair - getting married in a couple of months. :(


Aspoester do you reckon switching winny for anavar (bridge) might better my chances in terms of hairloss?

Should I drop the proviron too?



As far as I know var takes a good 4 - 5 weeks to kick in.

I'm thinking that running it for the 6 week brige only might be a waste.
I should probably start 3-4 weeks before my last test cyp shot??? Then run it for a further 36 days untill PCT starts?? (9-10 weeks @ 60mg pd in total)


please advise...

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03 Sep 2012 21:34 #120759 by gorilla
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What about something like finasteride??

Im not experiencing anything like that at all? Just a fucking bump in my nipple that 2mg adex a day wont even sort@@ :S

But ya, i would stay away from dht bud?? Hows the cycle going?

Lets go!

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03 Sep 2012 21:55 #120763 by jvr
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Cycles going well...strength gains only really kicked in towards the end of last week.
But couldnt believe what was happening!!! I'm taking T.bol instead of d.bol together wih proviron.
did my 7th pin today.
The best is that the test will only kick in in about 10 days time.



Shit man sorry to hear about your nipple situation. My nipples got really sensitive in the beginning of the second week already.Imediately took out the adex and still taking ,25mg e.o.d at the moment. Nipples feel harder and appears to be bigger (constant nipple stand but no puffiness/bumps to speak of)


So you're saying that you're not experiencing any itchiness or a funny tingling sensations on your scalp at all??? Damn - I'm getting really worried here. No signs of extra hair shedding as yet but I'm still worried.


If I'm not mistaken you are planning on bridging with anavar??? Will you only be taking it for the 36 day bridge period or will you start sooner?

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03 Sep 2012 21:59 #120765 by jvr
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O yes...finasteride scares me a bit. Sides includes long term sexual dysfunction.

Getting married soon. I can't take any chances as far as my pecker goes. imagine a honeymoon without the proper use of my penis :huh:

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03 Sep 2012 22:40 #120775 by Pyroclasm
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jvr wrote: Now is not the best time to loose my hair - getting married in a couple of months. :(


If you think Winstrol is bad for the hair line, just wait for the first time your wife gets jealous because that blonde from the restaurant was checking you out and you didn't flip her off. ;) haha Just kidding bro I wish you all the best hey!

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04 Sep 2012 00:35 - 04 Sep 2012 00:36 #120781 by Muscleaddict
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It is still possible to get MPB from steroids even if MPB is not an issue in your family. As we all know our genetics determine whether we will suffer from MPB. This is because our genes determine how many androgen receptors and how much DHT converting enzyme (5AR) we have in our scalp. With our normal testosterone and DHT levels (without using steroids) we might grow old and only lose a little bit of hair, but when you add high doses of exogenous test to the equation (or certain DHT based AAS) you have extremely high DHT levels that you would never in your life have had you not done steroids. The very high DHT levels can then be enough to strangle hair follicles and cause the hair to fall out, whereas this would never have been an issue with your normal genetically determined DHT levels. This does not effect everyone though obviously. Some guys have only a tiny concentration of androgen receptors in the scalp.

Both my grandfathers, my dad and my brothers and male cousins all have ALL their hair except maybe a very slight thinning spot. Seriously, ALL of the lucky buggers. :S I on the other hand have lost quite a bit since I started using steroids. Luckily not too bad. Most of it when I was on for over a year straight since my scalp didn't get time to recover because of the constant high DHT levels. Once the follicle is dead, there is no way of regrowing hair there. But a 'damaged' follicle can recovery post cycle with the help of minoxidil and nizoral shampoo, which is why short cycles with a long break are best if you have mild hairloss issues. If you have serious MPB in your family you're probably gonna lose it anyway so accept your fate like a man :lol: . Also, I would rather risk hairloss than do propecia/finasteride personally. That shit can screw you up!
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04 Sep 2012 15:54 #120837 by Megusta
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jvr wrote: Thanks admin and aspoester.


I believe proviron can also cause MPB due to it being a DHT derivative??? Do you agree?


The plan was to frontload with t.bol for 4,5 weeks. (In 3rd week now)
Cyp will be taken for 15 weeks and then for the bridge i wanted to take winny.
Proviron would have formed part through out cycle and bridge (21 weeks @40mg - LP )



did my 7th pin yesterday. Looks like we started our cycle at the same time? I'm in the 4th week now. So when did you say the test should start kicking in? im doing cyp, tbol and proviron. Alot of guys at gym are starting to ask me what supplements i'm using and what workouts do i do for my back and stuff :lol: Ive got a slightly itchy scalp as well since i started. I haven't seen ANY bald people in my close family though. My fathers uncles are bald. I also started to urinate alot, but not during the night, like when i hit puberty. On the other hand, im using creatine mono hidrate as well.

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04 Sep 2012 16:10 #120841 by Michael
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well i am on testcyp/dbol and winny bridge cycle, sunday was also my 7th pin and i am also experiencing a very itchy scalp :ohmy:

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04 Sep 2012 16:17 #120842 by MRfeathers
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nope, havent had any sides apart from a few pimples

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keep calm and listen to Feathers

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22 Sep 2012 16:20 #123190 by aspoester
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My body adjusts quite well to the test, in that 500mg a week does not seem to a aggravate hairloss to any noticeable degree. Winny on the other hand just drying my hair with a towel is a bit of scary thought. Anavar is still dht based but i have yet to include it in a cycle so i have no personal experience to share.

What i have generally done in the past is bridge with testp 100mg eod and you can easily get just as cutup and hardened as winny by being really strict on the calories and adding fasted cardio and post workout cardio.

I am now on a winny bridge, i was just liss for something different and wanted a break from pinning. But the hair is falling out in full swing *handtoface* eigh...

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22 Sep 2012 16:50 #123192 by GSP
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gorilla wrote: What about something like finasteride??

Im not experiencing anything like that at all? Just a fucking bump in my nipple that 2mg adex a day wont even sort@@ :S

But ya, i would stay away from dht bud?? Hows the cycle going?


Finasteride will only block testesterone from converting to DHT via the 5 Alpha reducaste enzyme, in a similar manner in which an AI prevents test from aromatising into estrogen. Finasteride will not do anything for compounds which are already DHT derivatives or which have a strong reaction with the androgen receptors in the scalp tissue.

I am MPB prone and use finasteride for many years until I basically realised how detrimental it was to my physique, training and sex life. If you keen on running your cycle despite hairloss issues, and are not looking to go the finsateride route, go to dischem and purcahse some kez shampoo. It contains a compoound called ketozanozole which has apparently been proved to reduce dht in a localised manner upon application to the scalp. I would also suggest picking up some regaine or any other topic minoxidil which acts as a vasodilator and will ensure that the hair follicle recieved higher levels of oxygentated blood which should also limit hairloss. Also, keep your hair and scalp clean at all times and limit your use of wax, gels and other products which may clog the follicle and potentially starve it from oxygen.

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