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28 Sep 2012 19:23 - 28 Sep 2012 20:26 #123931 by p1et
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Anyone here ever heard of this? Wow I was shocked to hear the existence of this the other day, crazy stuff! A friend at work brought it to my attention as his wife and mother started to convert to this type of religious slavery! Luckily a few guys here at work had some wisdom for him! Was just wondering how widely this believe had spread?
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28 Sep 2012 19:35 #123934 by CHAPEL
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Religion debates.. best avoided online.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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28 Sep 2012 19:40 #123935 by p1et
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Its not really a debate when they are wrong:p no just kidding, not here to argue, if there are any of the believe here and are offended by my choice of words I would gladly delete it! The topic is not pointed towords people partaking but rather just people that have heard about it.

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28 Sep 2012 20:15 #123944 by CHAPEL
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Still. Its not something we should discuss. Look at gorillas dumb ass jew jokes and how that ended. Hey I may be wrong and everyone is dying to chat about it ;)

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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28 Sep 2012 20:30 #123949 by p1et
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Ha ha yes. Ok i edited my first post as to not sound so harsh or disrespectfull! but being a jew is being a jew and Christian a Christian, these torah following Christian are somewhere inbetween. They believe in Christ but still try and follow the torah. Very interesting topic. Well to me atleast:lol:

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28 Sep 2012 20:30 #123950 by gorilla
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CHAPEL wrote: Still. Its not something we should discuss. Look at gorillas dumb ass jew jokes and how that ended. Hey I may be wrong and everyone is dying to chat about it ;)


Now that was a fuckup bro! Best is to leave any personal things, race,religion,sexuality etc of online forums.

Last time I made some jokes -- just cos I found it funny, not to offend anyone, but they were still offended and didnt find it funny...

Cheers bro!

Lets go!

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28 Sep 2012 20:42 #123955 by p1et
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I do agree that most people tend to get out of hand once religious topics pop up, no one wants to feel offended blah blah ec ec! My gospel also tells me that people will not always like what they hear. So talking openly about religion, and not only my own, is and should be fine! Its only once the one tries to force his/her believes down someone else's throught that things go sour very fast! I started the topic out of interest, to see if lots of people heard about it, because I surely did not even know it existed!

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28 Sep 2012 21:03 #123963 by DBatDBN
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gorilla wrote:

CHAPEL wrote: Still. Its not something we should discuss. Look at gorillas dumb ass jew jokes and how that ended. Hey I may be wrong and everyone is dying to chat about it ;)


Now that was a fuckup bro! Best is to leave any personal things, race,religion,sexuality etc of online forums.

Last time I made some jokes -- just cos I found it funny, not to offend anyone, but they were still offended and didnt find it funny...

Cheers bro!


Cool! So we can talk politics? :P

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28 Sep 2012 21:06 #123964 by gorilla
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DBatDBN wrote:

gorilla wrote:

CHAPEL wrote: Still. Its not something we should discuss. Look at gorillas dumb ass jew jokes and how that ended. Hey I may be wrong and everyone is dying to chat about it ;)


Now that was a fuckup bro! Best is to leave any personal things, race,religion,sexuality etc of online forums.

Last time I made some jokes -- just cos I found it funny, not to offend anyone, but they were still offended and didnt find it funny...

Cheers bro!


Cool! So we can talk politics? :P


As long as you agree with thiss??? ;)


Lets go!

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28 Sep 2012 21:24 #123967 by p1et
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Lmga:lol:

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28 Sep 2012 22:06 #123971 by CHAPEL
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Gorilla.. about as subtle as a shotgun, sharp as a butter knife and the most fitting to his username on the forum :)

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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28 Sep 2012 22:14 #123973 by thePridge
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pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: Anyone here ever heard of this? Wow I was shocked to hear the existence of this the other day, crazy stuff! A friend at work brought it to my attention as his wife and mother started to convert to this type of religious slavery! Luckily a few guys here at work had some wisdom for him! Was just wondering how widely this believe had spread?


It doesn't make sense... the torah is supposed to say "hey look... you can't get this right... you need Jesus"... then they believe in Jesus and the torah... meaning they believe Jesus isn't enough... they still need to "earn" their way into heaven...
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29 Sep 2012 02:36 #123980 by Wayne
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i am not deeply religious! But i believe most religions if not all have been infiltrated and turned inside out to suit "man" eg. "king james" bible! How can that be right? Anything man made or altered can never be perfect! I believe the older the scripture, the closer to the holy prophets of god, the most truthful it will be! Thorah, bible, quran...i believe them all to be true(the 1st of them, none man altered)

secondly, i find it hard to swallow that if you do not believe a certain thing, ie. Jesus was crucified for you, You are damned to hell, etc. I know some ppl across all religious groups absolutely rotten and some absolutely saintly....further more, 99% of the time, you follow the religion of your fathers, you dont really have a choice, you been sorta brainwashed?

end of the day, heaven or hell, where you go is only by the will of god, just try to be a good person and hope its enough, regardless of your religion or faith, let god be your guide and see where it gets you! Respect one another!

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29 Sep 2012 08:27 #123988 by jackrabbit1
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Wayne wrote: i am not deeply religious! But i believe most religions if not all have been infiltrated and turned inside out to suit "man" eg. "king james" bible! How can that be right? Anything man made or altered can never be perfect! I believe the older the scripture, the closer to the holy prophets of god, the most truthful it will be! Thorah, bible, quran...i believe them all to be true(the 1st of them, none man altered)

secondly, i find it hard to swallow that if you do not believe a certain thing, ie. Jesus was crucified for you, You are damned to hell, etc. I know some ppl across all religious groups absolutely rotten and some absolutely saintly....further more, 99% of the time, you follow the religion of your fathers, you dont really have a choice, you been sorta brainwashed?

end of the day, heaven or hell, where you go is only by the will of god, just try to be a good person and hope its enough, regardless of your religion or faith, let god be your guide and see where it gets you! Respect one another!


This is where its important to really study the religion - Christianity is different to any other religion. I'm not here to give a sermon, but if you want a good reference (IMO) - MacArthur study Bible( www.gty.org ). Most Christians dont exactly understand why they believe in Jesus. There is plenty logical reasoning for all the Christian principles.
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29 Sep 2012 09:44 #123994 by p1et
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pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: Anyone here ever heard of this? Wow I was shocked to hear the existence of this the other day, crazy stuff! A friend at work brought it to my attention as his wife and mother started to convert to this type of religious slavery! Luckily a few guys here at work had some wisdom for him! Was just wondering how widely this believe had spread?


It doesn't make sense... the torah is supposed to say "hey look... you can't get this right... you need Jesus"... then they believe in Jesus and the torah... meaning they believe Jesus isn't enough... they still need to "earn" their way into heaven...


Weird right? Didn't make sence to me either, untlil they started quoting scripture in the old and new testimonies that basicly statets that if you believe in Jesus you will abide in the law(torah) now the problem comes in that the bible never really differentiate between torah meening the oral law, the 10 commandments, ceremonial law or the moral law as Jesus tought! But if you really understand the new testament and what Jesus did then its clear that Jesus added and took away from the torah(oral law) meening that it was never written in stone as the ten commandments were! Also Jesus said that he will write the law on our hearts, not to blindly follow some rule set.

If you want I can post some of their teachings- but I don't like spreading things like that around!

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29 Sep 2012 10:46 #124001 by LXIX
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CHAPEL wrote: Gorilla.. about as subtle as a shotgun, sharp as a butter knife and the most fitting to his username on the forum :)


Hi5 (and +1) to gorilla for thanking this comment and not getting all twisted up.

I'm not gonna add to the comments on religion though. Amen

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29 Sep 2012 12:16 #124011 by Koe007
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

Wayne wrote: i am not deeply religious! But i believe most religions if not all have been infiltrated and turned inside out to suit "man" eg. "king james" bible! How can that be right? Anything man made or altered can never be perfect! I believe the older the scripture, the closer to the holy prophets of god, the most truthful it will be! Thorah, bible, quran...i believe them all to be true(the 1st of them, none man altered)

secondly, i find it hard to swallow that if you do not believe a certain thing, ie. Jesus was crucified for you, You are damned to hell, etc. I know some ppl across all religious groups absolutely rotten and some absolutely saintly....further more, 99% of the time, you follow the religion of your fathers, you dont really have a choice, you been sorta brainwashed?

end of the day, heaven or hell, where you go is only by the will of god, just try to be a good person and hope its enough, regardless of your religion or faith, let god be your guide and see where it gets you! Respect one another!


This is where its important to really study the religion - Christianity is different to any other religion. I'm not here to give a sermon, but if you want a good reference (IMO) - MacArthur study Bible( www.gty.org ). Most Christians dont exactly understand why they believe in Jesus. There is plenty logical reasoning for all the Christian principles.


John MacArthur is my favorite bible teacher, sadly I fall horribly short of what true Christianity calls us to, this is a true man of God though.

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