prop, tren a & gyno

evening gents.
im on my 6th cycle but 1st time using tren a. im in my 2nd week and it feels like have a lump/bump behind my 1 nipple. as far as i knowlumo behind nipple is estrogen related, but i have never had qny issues on any of my other cycles. is 2weeks soin enough for signs of gyno or is my imagination running away with me?

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Are your nips sensitive at all?

Not really, only because in twisted and turned and kept on feeling them last night, but lets say they are, must i ma get the letro ready solong?
Not sure if it is estrogen or progesterone, and apparently the treatment methods are different.

If you are getting gyno symptoms its most probably progesterone related as you say you never had estrogen related problems! Letro or adex will sort you out, but its advised to get some bromo or cabaser aswell because even though your gyno will go away with the use of letro your prolactin levels are still influenced negatively and is going to have a inpact on your recovery post cycle.

Thanks pro. What dosages should i be looking at

andre300 wrote: Thanks pro. What dosages should i be looking at

Hmm you will have to ask some of the more experienced guys hey, I only know this due to doing some research and asking questions, but don't know much about the dosages!

Thanks bro......so any takers?

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: If you are getting gyno symptoms its most probably progesterone related as you say you never had estrogen related problems! Letro or adex will sort you out, but its advised to get some bromo or cabaser aswell because even though your gyno will go away with the use of letro your prolactin levels are still influenced negatively and is going to have a inpact on your recovery post cycle.

not necessarily the case, even if you not are not prone to estrogen-related gyno when running a normal test based cycle, this does not mean that you will be immune from getting estrogen-related gyno when adding a nor-derivative in the mix. The presence of high progesterone levels in the body can enhance the effects of estrogen in the breast tissue and thus heighten the risk of getting gyno. Prolactin related gyno is usually accompanied by lactation but it seems that you are still in the early stages.

The best way to treat the gyno would be to get some letro asap as this will decrease both estrogen levels and prolactin levels. And a progressive stated, get some caber asap. Again, I cant believe why people consider running harsh compounds such as tren and yet do not feel the need to keep progesterone or estrogen levels in check on cycle. Apart from the gyno issue, its just makes pct all that harder.

Thanks gsp. Is there a alternative for cabaser, my supplier does not have and cant get.

Would .25 letro a day be suffice?

andre300 wrote: Thanks gsp. Is there a alternative for cabaser, my supplier does not have and cant get.

Would .25 letro a day be suffice?

I cant give you to much assistance regarding dosage mate. But I think that if you are feeling little lumps, then I would think it would be best to start out with at least 0.5g/letro. Again, I have to reiterate that my knowledge on aas-induced gyno reversal is very limited and I would still wait for someone more knowledgeable to answe ur question.

Instead of asking for cabaser, ask if he has any dostinex in hand as that is the brand name it is usually sold under. Pramipexole is another compound which will lower progesterone levels. It is usually sold under the brand called Mirapex.

GSP wrote:

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: If you are getting gyno symptoms its most probably progesterone related as you say you never had estrogen related problems! Letro or adex will sort you out, but its advised to get some bromo or cabaser aswell because even though your gyno will go away with the use of letro your prolactin levels are still influenced negatively and is going to have a inpact on your recovery post cycle.

not necessarily the case, even if you not are not prone to estrogen-related gyno when running a normal test based cycle, this does not mean that you will be immune from getting estrogen-related gyno when adding a nor-derivative in the mix. The presence of high progesterone levels in the body can enhance the effects of estrogen in the breast tissue and thus heighten the risk of getting gyno. Prolactin related gyno is usually accompanied by lactation but it seems that you are still in the early stages.

The best way to treat the gyno would be to get some letro asap as this will decrease both estrogen levels and prolactin levels. And a progressive stated, get some caber asap. Again, I cant believe why people consider running harsh compounds such as tren and yet do not feel the need to keep progesterone or estrogen levels in check on cycle. Apart from the gyno issue, its just makes pct all that harder.

True but either way the remedy stays the same! Prolactin sides are only noticeable under high estrogen levels, so even though you treat the high estrogen via letro you will still need bromo or cabaser because as far as I understand letro will do nothing for elevated prolactin levels.

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote:

GSP wrote:

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: If you are getting gyno symptoms its most probably progesterone related as you say you never had estrogen related problems! Letro or adex will sort you out, but its advised to get some bromo or cabaser aswell because even though your gyno will go away with the use of letro your prolactin levels are still influenced negatively and is going to have a inpact on your recovery post cycle.

not necessarily the case, even if you not are not prone to estrogen-related gyno when running a normal test based cycle, this does not mean that you will be immune from getting estrogen-related gyno when adding a nor-derivative in the mix. The presence of high progesterone levels in the body can enhance the effects of estrogen in the breast tissue and thus heighten the risk of getting gyno. Prolactin related gyno is usually accompanied by lactation but it seems that you are still in the early stages.

The best way to treat the gyno would be to get some letro asap as this will decrease both estrogen levels and prolactin levels. And a progressive stated, get some caber asap. Again, I cant believe why people consider running harsh compounds such as tren and yet do not feel the need to keep progesterone or estrogen levels in check on cycle. Apart from the gyno issue, its just makes pct all that harder.

True but either way the remedy stays the same! Prolactin sides are only noticeable under high estrogen levels, so even though you treat the high estrogen via letro you will still need bromo or cabaser because as far as I understand letro will do nothing for elevated prolactin levels.

If I am not mistaken, it should result in lower prolactin levels as, according to my understanding, prolactin is only secreted on a glandular level in the presence of both high levels of estrogen and high levels of progesterone. If letro reduces estrogen levels, then this should result in a reduction of prolactin secretion. However, what I letro wont do is lower progesterone levels, hence the need for cabaser.

However, this is just my understanding and I may be incorrect. Nonetheless, moral of the story, is ensure that you have all ancillaries on hand before starting a cycle and know how to use them properly.

Yip, definately. Thanks for input gents