My first cycle and some advice if possible?

Hi guys, hoping that iv'e read all there is with regards to rules and don't get kicked for what im about to ask ... So I want to start my first steroid cycle to gain muscle and get rid of stubborn fat. The following is what im aiming to do.

1. Cycle: Run a 10 week Test prop cycle ie:. 1ml every 3 days and CYT3 1 tab a day for the whole cycle. First as a beginner iv'e asked around and it seems that this is a proper first cycle? help if im on the wrong track here?

2. Diet: Ok this is the tough one as I also tried the diet before for 12 weeks and lost quite a bit of weight even though i've cheated here and there.

04:50 Wake up and take CYT3 (1 tab only).
05:40 Oats 40 - 60g.
05:50 Protien Shake 2 servings 50 - 60g.
06:20 Morning cofee no sugar.
10:00 Tuna and Green salad with feta cheese.
13:00 Chicken with skin and steamed or canned veggies.
15:00 Protein Shake 50 - 60g.
17:00 Almonds and Raisins about 2 hands full. ( pre workout )
17:05 Lava sticks and concentrated pre workout.
18:00 - 19:30 Workout at the gym.
19:35 Creatine 50g.
19:40 Protein shake 50 - 60g.
21:00 If im hungry still chicken and steamed veggies with potato and rice.

During the diet I cut all sugar, dirty carbs, sport drinks, candy well basicly anything bad. Also take in about 8 - 10 litres of water a day.

This diet helped me to drop from 98Kg's to 80Kg's in just over 20 weeks. Pant size went from size 34 to sub size 30 now.

3. Workout

Day 1: Chest.
Day 2: Arms and Back.
Day 3: Rest
Day 4: Shoulders and abs
Day 5: Legs.
Day 6: Rest.
Day 7: Cardio

After this I start from beginning again, my workouts are focused on giong heavier every 3 weeks with low reps
(8 - 12 / set) and varied with whole body exercises to burn fat 45 - 60 second rests between sets, cardio day is hitting the treadmill for an hour, walking / sprinting with 5 minute intervals and incline walks (try and keep my heart rate at between 130 - 140Bpm).

Ok now for a couple of questions, stats are as follows.

Age:34
Height: 1.68m
Weight: 84Kg
Bodyfat: 21 - 25%
Look: No definition.
Build: Endomorph that worked hard on getting rid of abdomon fat.

That being said I'd like some advice / help on the following.

1. Definition and building muscle and keeping most of it?
2. Diet / Cycle (CYT3 specifically) advice as I have some stubborn fat (abdomen) that I would like to shed?

General advice would be nice as im really a novice at this, been hitting the gym on a regular basis now for about 16 months with a 21 day rest in March.

• 50g creatine? I think you mean 5g.
• Take your post-workout directly after workout.
• Don't eat nuts for pre-workout.
• Too many protein shakes, too little meat.
• 1.5 hours in the gym is too long. Rework your routine to so are in and out quicker. Consider going in more often or lifting faster (cutting exercises/ repping quicker/ super setting)
• How can you justify giving chest a day on it's own and back not? I cannot agree with that. In fact, I don't like your routine in general.
• Do you have PCT planned?
• Have you bought the CYT3 yet? If not consider another stim without T3. If so - shame. You may only run T3 while you have an anabolic active in your blood; otherwise it'll eat away muscle.

Hi tnx for the quick reply apreciate.

Sorry for not posting the PCT, yes i will start taking Proviron and Clomid 3 days after my last injection as for creatine yes got my figures wrong there you are right 5g it is.

Any advice on a decent fat burner?

Furk wrote:

• Have you bought the CYT3 yet? If not consider another stim without T3. If so - shame. You may only run T3 while you have an anabolic active in your blood; otherwise it'll eat away muscle.

The test prop in his cycle should take prevent the muscle loss I'm sure you just missed that bit.

Eidolon wrote:

Furk wrote:

• Have you bought the CYT3 yet? If not consider another stim without T3. If so - shame. You may only run T3 while you have an anabolic active in your blood; otherwise it'll eat away muscle.

The test prop in his cycle should take prevent the muscle loss I'm sure you just missed that bit.

Ja, but whats the half-life like for prop (2 days?) and when will you consider it active enough? I reckon if he wants to go through with T3 he'll have to wait a day or two. Or am I off the ball?

Kobusvt, as for other fat burners, maybe clen and yohimbe? There's a couple of active threads on here discussing them.

Your bridge needs to be longer, 14days for the Test Prop.

PCT:
First 7 days: 100mg Clomid every day
Day 8-37: 20mg Nolva/Kessar every day
Day 8-27: 500iU hCG every OTHER day

ADD: also do the Test Prop every 2 days to keep blood concentration levels more stable.

Tnx once again ... Was wondering about the effect of T3 vs test prop half life 3 days down the line ... Also read that CYT3 should be taken 21 days on and 21 days off ... Building the dosage up to 12 days and then curving it down gave seen others using CYT3 with good results .. Will change my workouts as well to quicker in and quicker out with lower weights and more reps.

One q though ... My stubborn fat? some say dieting is the only way to get abs other say cardio and weights is there a truth there somewhere?

Kobusvt wrote: My stubborn fat? some say dieting is the only way to get abs other say cardio and weights is there a truth there somewhere?

1) dieting is your first priority
2) cardio will help and will work well for fat loss if your diet is sorted
3) then maybe look at fat burners - try clen and yohimbine instead of Test Prop and T3 (if your goals are purely fat loss orientated)
4) maybe look at reverzine as a last resort for your stubborn stomach fat - only once fat loss has slowed down completely after you have had your diet and cardio in check for a good few months

Tnx @MK advice is needed and greatfull for the help, is my diet in check as posted and what changes would you advise?
I want to build muscle as well as lose stubborn fat to get definition as my previous diet session left me smaller meaning I lost fat and muscle tissue.

Any sper secret tips

When was your last cycle? I would then go for the Test Prop and T3 cycle, but I really hope you stay on here longer and learn a lot more (by also researching previous threads) on Test Prop and T3 because I don't think you know what you're doing bud. Please don't take that in a negative way, I am only looking out for your health.

Regarding your diet, go to the dieting and contest preparation section and read DJs dieting stickies 101 and 102. It's impossible for me to tell you how many calories you should be eating daily for your goals without knowing your stats. Those stickies/threads of DJs are excellent and really help making dieting easier to understand.

No harm done thats why im asking the questions here .. Have never been on any anabolics in my life so this will be my very first cycle, busy doing research and therefore the reason that im here posting away .. As for health im in pretty good shape and will rather stay away from anabolics than stuffing it up so thanks for the concern buddy I understand the risks involved but would like to get bigger and better vs gymming my butt of and not getting anywhere

Just concentrate on getting your body fat down with dieting, training and maybe some fat burners, then consider a cycle The time it takes to get rid of the fat will be a good time for you to do as much research on anabolic steriods, training and diet so you will be well prepared for your cycle and make some solid muscle gains. thats what i would do if i was in your shoes

Thanks Manery iv'e been mesuring my bodyfat with those Virgin active machines and heard that they not really acurate so went to a dietician to make sure ... im actually on 15% bodyfat found that out yesterday im in agreement guys so will do the training for now and bring it down to a single digit number if possible before I'll go the anabolic route.

Yeah bud, trust me you wont regret it.