Training and Medication

morning77
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18 Sep 2013 14:07 #151419 by morning77

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Okay guys, so im in a sh*t situation. Im dieting and i got tonsillitis. Its pretty bad, and got strong antibiotics, probiotics and painkillers. Im also cycling t3 and clen at medium dosages.
I feel much better taking the medication but is it safe to continue with my cycle and train OR should i leave it and rest ?

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Rhino
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18 Sep 2013 14:13 #151424 by Rhino

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Are you on cycle at the moment?

Go big or go home...

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morning77
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18 Sep 2013 14:14 #151425 by morning77

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Rhino wrote: Are you on cycle at the moment?

yes, clen @120mcg and t3 @60mcg

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mike123
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18 Sep 2013 14:19 #151427 by mike123

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morning77 wrote:
Rhino wrote: Are you on cycle at the moment?

yes, clen @120mcg and t3 @60mcg

Thats not a cycle boet ...dont use t3 without aas

u will loose / burn muscle

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morning77
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18 Sep 2013 14:22 #151429 by morning77

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mike123 wrote:
morning77 wrote:
Rhino wrote: Are you on cycle at the moment?

yes, clen @120mcg and t3 @60mcg

Thats not a cycle boet ...dont use t3 without aas u will loose / burn muscle

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thats where the clen comes in and my fats are relatively high and my protein is very high.

but anyway, i need an answer for my original question !! :pinch:

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Rhino
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18 Sep 2013 14:23 #151430 by Rhino

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Like Mike said Bro
If your not juicing dont use t3. The clen won't save your muscle your going to burn it with the fat.

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MRfeathers
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18 Sep 2013 14:24 #151431 by MRfeathers

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how does the clen help?
stay away from the gym or any strenuous activity if you're ill, especially if you're on clen

keep calm and listen to Feathers

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morning77
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18 Sep 2013 14:30 #151432 by morning77

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dude clen @ 120mcg will make you anti-catabolic

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MRfeathers
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18 Sep 2013 14:31 #151433 by MRfeathers

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dude you watch too many movies

keep calm and listen to Feathers

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morning77
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18 Sep 2013 14:36 #151434 by morning77

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clenbuterol

--It is also a nonsteroidal anabolic and metabolism accelerator,[citation needed] through a mechanism not well understood. Although illegal, its ability to increase the muscle-to-body fat ratio makes its use in livestock popular to obtain leaner meats.[citation needed]--

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Pyroclasm
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18 Sep 2013 14:38 #151435 by Pyroclasm

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Clen with Antibiotics you are risking permanent heart damage!

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MRfeathers
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18 Sep 2013 14:40 #151437 by MRfeathers

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it isn't anti catabolic enough to spare your gains while on T3 without any test. Read Pyros post on the forum. but good luck anyway dude, hope it works for you

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morning77
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18 Sep 2013 14:42 #151439 by morning77

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why? you making me stress here, i took my last clen yesterday at 16:00 and not today?? still damaging anything *worried face*

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Heretic47
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18 Sep 2013 14:50 #151441 by Heretic47

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As stated, clen's claimed anti-catablic properties isn't nearly enough to offset catabolic effects experienced from T3. As far as I know, the claims about it's anabolic effects have come from studies on cattle and we don't have nearly as many beta 2 receptors.

That said, take time off to recover then go back. Your body's under enough stress as is.

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Fakey_AK
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18 Sep 2013 14:51 #151442 by Fakey_AK

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No offense but you come here asking for advice, advice is giving and then you argue the advice. :huh:

And regardless if you natty or not, when you sick and on antibiotics you should stay home and rest. Risking your health further for gains or fat loss is just not worth it.

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Pyroclasm
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18 Sep 2013 14:55 #151443 by Pyroclasm

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No exercise I hope? Dude very dangerous hey. Why did you take clen anyways if you can´t exercise?

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mike123
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18 Sep 2013 14:56 #151445 by mike123

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Clen on its own might keep u anti catabolic but T3 is much stronger than clen ....if u are sick leave the "cycle " till u recover and then go back on Clen ...if it is in your head only u can train lightly but if it moves down below your shoulders = no training ...dont worry about damaging if u stop today.

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morning77
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18 Sep 2013 15:00 #151449 by morning77

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Pyroclasm wrote: No exercise I hope? Dude very dangerous hey. Why did you take clen anyways if you can´t exercise?

i dont know what u mean? whats dangerous?

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Oupa
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18 Sep 2013 15:01 #151450 by Oupa

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Fakey_AK wrote: No offense but you come here asking for advice, advice is giving and then you argue the advice. :huh:

I agree. Stop being such a smart ass and listen to what the guys are telling u.

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MRfeathers
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18 Sep 2013 15:01 #151451 by MRfeathers

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it puts a lot of strain on your heart

keep calm and listen to Feathers

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morning77
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18 Sep 2013 15:02 #151453 by morning77

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sorry okes, i was just told that clen is muscle sparing and have been cycling the doses of clen and t3 for a while now, dropped alot of BF but maintained my muscle size

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mike123
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18 Sep 2013 15:19 #151465 by mike123

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Have your b/f % checked and compare with before u started and work out what u have lost ...
muscle % and fat %

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Pyroclasm
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18 Sep 2013 15:24 #151474 by Pyroclasm

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morning77 wrote:
Pyroclasm wrote: No exercise I hope? Dude very dangerous hey. Why did you take clen anyways if you can´t exercise?

i dont know what u mean? whats dangerous?

I mean why take Clen if you are unable to exercise because of your antibiotics?

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Furk
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19 Sep 2013 00:08 #151545 by Furk

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@morning77: My advice bro, stop Clen and T3 now. Ensure you are eating a *variety* of good foods (not just chicken and broccoli!) and drop intensity in the gym (solid time-off is better). When you start feeling better/ medication course ends go back to training hard and cutting calories. Then jump on the clen and if you have enough T3 to last you a while, get some Var to go with that to ensure you aren't destroying any gains.

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jackrabbit1
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19 Sep 2013 11:07 #151590 by jackrabbit1

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Your heart is already racing because of the infection and now you load the strain with Clen and T3?

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