Diet and Workout help

I am curious about a few things regarding a diet while on juice... I just finished my first cycle about 5 weeks ago...

450mg deca ew week 1 - 13
375mg test e ew week 1 -13
60mg dbol ed week 1 - 7

Pct
Hcg 500iu ed
Clomid 50/50/100/100
Nolva 20/20/40/40

I have made some reasonable gains on the cycle but not what I was expecting seeing this is my first cycle....
luckily I experienced little sides just a little bloat and a little bit of aggressiveness at times but that was it

I went up from 81kg to 93kg and it seems my weight stabilised now at 91kg..
Bf% came down from 22.7% to
16.8%...
My power went through the roof and seems to be maintaining

Now my question is what is a recommended eating and workout plan... I was following the usn 12-week body and lifestyle challenge. I think this wasn't quite right seeing I tried to bulk up and the diet and workout plan id for weight loss.

An y help would be greatly appreciated.

Elaborate on your PCT please? How many days and when do you take which compounds?

Took 60mg dianabol every day for 7 weeks
Shot 1.5ml of deca 300 (dragonpharma) and 1.5ml of test-e (dragon pharma). Combined the 3ml into one weekly injection into the quad on the side (vastus lateralis).

When I stopped the injections 13 weeks from the start date I waited 7 days and begun the pct. On the pct I injected 500iu (0.2cc) hcg everyday for 10 days.
Took clomid 50mg (1tab) everyday for 14 days and ramped it up to 100mg (2 tabs) everyday for another 14 days did exactly the same with the Nolva 1 tab for 14 days and 2 tabs the last 14.

Your PCT was unfortunately a complete waste of time. You ran it way to soon after your cycle. You can expect to crash in the next month or so. You should do another PCT.

How long was i suppose to wait before i started the pct?

and what would you recommend i do to avoid crashing?

Hi Daniel,

Unfortunatley your post cycle was done at the complete wrong time.
The compound in your cycle with the longest acting half life was Deca.

See below

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/info...9-post-cycle-therapy


You should have waited 45 days after your last Deca pin and then only started your Post Cycle.
Deca is highly suppressive and you should have been using your HGC on cycle @ 250ui twice p/week.
You should have been using cabasser(prevent Decadick etc) as well as an AI such as Arimidex as well(Prevent Gyno etc).

See below

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/drug...eroids/15-nandrolone


You should try post cycle 3 starting in about 10 days time (If as you say it has been 5 weeks since your last Deca Pin) to sort out your natural test production.

Hopefully you might still keep some of your gains, as they should start disappearing shortly as your body won't be anabolic for much longer.

You should have done a lot more research before you attempted this cycle. Whoever gave you post cycle advise should be punched in the face.

Also your Body Fat Percentage was way to high, you need to be @ <15% B/F and that's why your results were not what you expected.

Plus read the diet stickies in the "Diet and Contest Prep" section of the forum for your answers regarding diet while on cycle. Diet is the key and you have to eat according to your goals.

Good luck!

Thanks a lot Heritage

Like i said in the first post i experienced no sides at all, no gyno, no acne what so ever only a little bloat but i guess that was from the dbol.

i think i start the pct nr 3 as it is on the site to try and save what is to be saved.
As for decadick luckily that wasn't a issue at all while i was on the cycle i was horny as hell even more than i was before, after the cycle its all still going good. sex drive is still greatly up and no problems maintaining a hard-on.
What do you mean by highly suppressive?
I read about it a lot of times but honestly don't understand it.

Will check out the stickies in the diet and contest prep thread.

No problem, we're all here to learn and help.
In your case hindsight is foresight, you'll know for next time.

You were extremely lucky regarding the side effects.

When they refer to a compound be suppressive, they are referring to how the compound effects your bodies(Namely testicles) ability to produce its own natural testosterone.

Compounds such as Deca and Tren are highly suppressive and can stop your body producing its own testosterone completely.
When using these compounds you should follow Post cycle 3 to get your nads working on their own again. Complete shutdown is a f-up and you don't want to end up there.

Definitely run PCT 3 and then once that's done get some bloodwork done to check your body is producing testosterone in normal range.

What's your age bud?

Oky cool, my understanding about the suppression was right then.
That was one thing that was very obvious in my cycle about 2 weeks since i started i noticed that my balls began to shrink to about the size of the tip of my thumb..
still isn't back to what is was but at least its better.
a guy i know who juices told me this is normal and will clear up by itself withing a month or 2
hopefully the pct 3 i will start soon will clear this up.

im 24 now.
had bloodwork done last week just waiting for the doc to give me a call.

Glad to hear about the bloodwork, not sure if it will be true reflection though...as your test
levels could still be elevated from the cycle. Muscle Addict would be able to help you on that question. If you ask him nicely I'm sure he'll give the right answer. He the best when it comes to that sort of thing!

The PCT 3 should sort out your nuts.
That why it would have been better to use the HCG during your cycle, stops that from happening
as the HGC helps your nuts to still produce their own test even with the spike in test levels when
juicing.

Dbol 60mg for 7 weeks ???? hope u took and still taking liver sups ?