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21 Aug 2014 19:53 #173658 by Smalguy
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I Know This Topic Has Been Brought Up But My PCT Has Now Fallen In The Time Im Abroad .. I Know Everyone Always Says Plan But For This One I Just Could Not .. Would It Be 2 Risky To Put My Clomid and Nolva in For Example A Multivit Bottle Or Something .. ( Traveling To Germany BTW ) Or Hows The Steroid Scene In Germany And Switzerland ?? Should I Rather Take The Chance And Acquire Some There ?

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21 Aug 2014 20:19 #173660 by Furk
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Hey Smalguy, your making me dizzy with those caps :P but take a look at this thread.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/11-gene...ed-in-a-plane#167788

If it's just the clomid and nolva you'll manage. But HCG I wouldn't do or advise. Also, make sure you can train hard and eat correctly when abroad. That is friggen critical. For how long are you abroad for?

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21 Aug 2014 20:24 #173661 by Smalguy
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haha damn sorry furk i sometimes forget not to type like a tard .. yeah its just nolva and clomid so you reckon just do the multivit bottle route ?? yeah diet will be on par and training ill have to sort out the one hotel does have a gym so only gonna mis 3 days of training but ill do some bw training .. but im there in total for 18 days

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22 Aug 2014 10:15 #173667 by RonTheSaveg
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Hey Smalguy... Okay so I know Im probably gonna get trashed by the guys for telling my story again... But hey what the hell. I was in exactly the same situation as you last year Dec. I also travelled to Germany and Austria on a skiing trip. Bru, I took my entire PCT with. I put the clomid and shit in Biogen Vit C Bottles and re sealed them.

I have a very good bud living in Austria.. He says the gear scene there is very tricky, he's been living there for over a year now and is still looking for a reliable source. Seems a lot easier here.

I'm quite close to my doc. If I need to do it again, I'll just ask her for a letter, just in case. My view is that all the PCT meds can be prescribed and obtained. Maybe I was out if line and risky... But hey, we are all taking risks using gear aren't we? ;)

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25 Aug 2014 19:37 #173738 by Pyroclasm
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Whereabouts in Germany bud?

PCT meds are not illegal, so if you have a cool doc then get him/her to write you a letter stating that you are being treated with these compounds. At best you should get a prescription for the meds and bring them with proper labling from the pharmacy.

Terrible idea to try to procure your PCT meds in another countr- on paper it doesn't sound too bad but in practice it's a train wreck!

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25 Aug 2014 19:43 #173739 by Pyroclasm
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I wouldn't repackage anything because the customs officers are trained to spot that and then they will know you are trying to conceal an illegal item and you are boned. German officers cannot be pursuaded or bribed so don't even try.

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31 Aug 2014 20:18 #173938 by Smalguy
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@pyro I know you stay in Germany but whats the laws like regarding AAS in Switzerland the trip planning changed a bit .. I heard they are super chilled most of the time so still a no go taking it over with me via Switzerland ??

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31 Aug 2014 21:06 #173939 by Pyroclasm
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If you tell me what your exact plan is then I can help you

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31 Aug 2014 21:14 #173940 by Smalguy
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@pyro sorry should have given more info .. my big problem is my pct falls slap bang in the middle of my cycle so i need to take my pct with me ( nolva and clomid ) so i thought maybe to pop them in another container like a zma bottle as the caps look very similar but if needs be ill ask my gp for a script but still unsure how to handle this and how the enforcement is at airports etc ( we are flying via France just for some extra info if it means anything )

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01 Sep 2014 20:33 #173971 by Pyroclasm
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It is difficult to give you a straight answer because I am scared someone reads this and ends up taking chances in a country like China or Vietnam or Nigeria and gets the death penalty for trying to bring two simple vials of testosterone into the country. You are an adult so I will give you some options and you can decide for yourself. I want to help you because you are not doing anyone any harm.

For your specific situation.. Important for you not to give any specific details like your flight date as this site is monitored by police. Firstly it does not matter that you fly via France because they automatically put your luggage through to your connecting flight, and therefore you will only collect your luggage in the country you are flying to. You will then go through customs in Germany which sucks for someone in your situation. The German police officers are very good at what they do. There are three options that won't get you into big kak. The first one is the best one:
1) Get a script from your doctor and buy the medicine with proper labelling from a pharmacy. That way you and your buddies can walk through customs and play hackiesack with the Clomid while taking selfies.
2) Put the meds in your supplement bottles. Only do this and don't try anything else. Keep it simple! Do not try to conceal in any way like for example to reseal the bottle, or adding real ZMA tabs to be more legit. Don't put it in your shoes! Put it with your other meds. Best would be if you had something legitimate to declare and go through the red line to pay tax. Best for a young dude like you would be to have more than 2L of hard alcohol with you, that you bought "duty-free" at the airport in SA. Tell them you are not sure whether you need to declare them or not. You might have to pay VAT (called UmSt) on this (7 or 19% depending on quantity), but it gives you a damn great reason for going through the red line.
The risk that you take is that they could find out the meds are scheduled. For a first time offence you might get a 50€ fine or a warning, dependant on the overall mood of the day.
3) Rethink and replan your cycle. This is a good option if option 1 doesn't work.

Most important is to be respectful to the officers but don't suck up to them. They are not your superiors they are your equals, and all they need is for you to show them respect. Don't call them Sir, call them Officer. Officer is actually their official title so you are not sucking up, and it is respectful. Sir is blatant arse-licking.

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01 Sep 2014 20:56 #173975 by Smalguy
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@pyro what can i say more than thanks a million so i think i need to go to my doc and get prescription but would taking for example LP pct through be fine seeing as they could see it as legit medication and not just any underground lab stuff ?? or do i need to get the actuall stuff that the pharmacy sells ?? But i see you refer to the German police being harsh but hows the Swiss cause realistically i would be based in Switzerland and then just driving to Germany daily .. so would never actually be entering Germany with my pct ?

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01 Sep 2014 21:09 #173977 by admin
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I don't think we should discuss smuggling techniques on this forum. As far as I'm concerned you guys are very close to breaking Rule 2.1

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01 Sep 2014 21:12 #173978 by admin
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Smalguy wrote: @pyro what can i say more than thanks a million so i think i need to go to my doc and get prescription but would taking for example LP pct through be fine seeing as they could see it as legit medication and not just any underground lab stuff ?? or do i need to get the actuall stuff that the pharmacy sells ?? But i see you refer to the German police being harsh but hows the Swiss cause realistically i would be based in Switzerland and then just driving to Germany daily .. so would never actually be entering Germany with my pct ?


If you get a prescription you better have products from a pharmacy and not products from your underground supplier, you will need the pharmacy's sticker with your name adhered to the packaging of the products or you will be in shit regardless if you have a prescription or not.

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01 Sep 2014 21:13 #173979 by Smalguy
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@Admin eish didnt see that one .. sorry bigboss didnt know who else to ask but i think ill end the discussion then
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01 Sep 2014 21:16 #173980 by admin
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My advice is to make another plan and reschedule your cycle so that you don't have to risk your freedom over PCT.

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01 Sep 2014 21:26 #173981 by Pyroclasm
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admin wrote: I don't think we should discuss smuggling techniques on this forum. As far as I'm concerned you guys are very close to breaking Rule 2.1


You are right, I apologise.

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