Advice please on potential hypogonadism..

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31 Jan 2016 17:54 #195972 by falconer1
Hey fellas, I have followed this site and read articles from this site for years and I believe that the guys on this site are the most knowledgable people in the AAS world that I have seen over the last 13 yrs of training and AAS usage.. With that being said I am looking for some sound advice without judgement. I started AAS when I was 17yrs old and cycled on and off until I was about 24 consistently and perhaps abused them during those years. I didn't always do perfect pct like I have been educated on from this site over the last year years. My background is I used to play all sports especially hockey growing up and had a couple concussions as a youth, around 17 life was getting pretty crazy and I saw steroids as a way to make my self big and strong to protect my self and I fell in love with lifting and the gear (I am not well aware that starting was at 17 is a silly idea, but at that time in my life I didn't care what happened to me) Over the next 7 years I put on 70lean lbs of muscle and fluctuated between 200-220. 5"10 always with a 6 pack from 150lb when starting... I became a trainer, and was heavily involved with as so they were always around... Around 23/24 I was getting ready for a show and had 2 bouts of "A fib" then after being defribulated 10 weeks out from show time I got off the gear and got ultra sound and discovered my left ventricle was dilated with a 30% ejection fraction.. This scared me, I was on beta blockers and seeing cardiologist regularly. Hard drugs were often used, alcohol, weed, ect between thos years... I am now 30 and over the last 5 years I have done a tiny bit or var or some test here and there and always get amazing results from low dosages. I haven't cycled for 1.5 yrs and the last cycle was very light for 8 weeks test and var and proper pct... Haven't been feeling quite the same over the last 3-4 yrs no though I generally smoke weed often and a fairly high stress life style.... I have had 2 rounds of blood work done both showing test at 400... I had tried intermittent fasting, heavy lifting, pine pollen ect ect.. I live generally a healthy life style and party once in a blue moon.. Last test my progesterone was 3.8 on a scale of 0-3.. Testosterone 400 and libido was shit... I came to Nicaragua with the intention to totally relax my body and see if I can get my levels up past at least 600.. I'm really hoping I didn't fuck my system up from when I was younger... After 6 weeks of being here the pharmacies won and I got some testex 250 and decided fuck it I'm going to run a light cycle then to crazy test flu eat and got thinking to my self "what am I doing, I have a heart issue and cycling is what mostly cause this to begin with.. I just wanted to feel the old feeling I guess.... I was going to just start training hard, sleeping lots and fun low dose clomid for a few weeks than when I return to Canada in 4 weeks get blood work and speak to and endo and see where I was at naturally... So I have quit coffe, quit weed, lowered stress levels, but shot my self in the foot by taking some test.... I know this is a lot to read and I appreciate it for those o have read and can possibly relate. Ideas? I was thinking about riding out the first 250 shot and taking some clomid and getting back into clean lifestyle and doing everything I can naturally. Cause right after taking the test I could feel I was out of integrity with my self now...

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31 Jan 2016 20:02 #195994 by Pyroclasm
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Gents please remember that the discussion of drugs is not allowed on the forum. I know weed isn't really a drug but in RSA it is still illegal schedule 7. I did not remove it from the post above because it gives some insight to Falconer's story but please nothing further on this.

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31 Jan 2016 21:51 #195998 by Muscleaddict
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What have you already tried to get your test levels up to a good range naturally?

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01 Feb 2016 08:47 - 01 Feb 2016 08:58 #196005 by 00pump
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Only to discuss from a medical point, the 'partying' caused the atrial fibrillation due to stimulation from those drugs.. Weed will also cause PVC's and other heart abnormalities and hence cause the heart to go off beat and that is where the beta blockers are coming into play to help regulate the heart rhythm, you do know atrial fibrillation can and will kill you eventually if your blood pressure is high, if you do not die you may get lucky and only have a stroke ?

Because you have hit the central nervous system to the degree you have, the damage is done, stopping the coffee was a wise idea..

If this was me, I would stop the test, I would work with bloods and only focus on returning your levels to a normal healthy range.

Don't reminisce on the past, because that image in your head and the way you believe / or really did feel is never going to return, and you will never feel satisfied and get what you looking for. Life changes you get older, your body changes and this includes rejecting things that may have made you feel better.

You went through trauma, the hospitals, the cardiologists, the anxiety... You have re-wired your thinking pattern and also caused a shift in the chemical structure of your brain. You have probably done permanent damage to yourself in ways you not even aware and to other organs (I bet your kidneys have taken a hammering too).

Even from a 'natural' treatment method / alternative treatment, you will never get back your health and feel the way you once have. Years of smoking weed causes severe damage to the brain and neurotransmitters, weed is one of the easiest drugs to cause psychosis (temporary but sometimes permanent (if it's chronic / hydro)). Your mind is extremely complex and the only way you going to start sorting yourself out and helping yourself find balance is to just stop putting stuff in your body. Every medication with a S* on it has a list of side effects.

What you are explaining is an extremely vast in nature and you need to start putting effort and energy into 1 thing at a time. But my initial suggestion is stop putting crap in your body, this includes PCT medication.. Psychological damage and shifting your brains pattern could very well be your reason for you never 'fully' recoverd.

NOTE: Please do not argue (anyone) around the side effects I state that certain 'illegal' substances cause. If this post shifts any further from the use and side effects of anabolic steroids, it will be locked.

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02 Feb 2016 03:12 #196055 by falconer1
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Thank you for the reply guys.. Sorry about the reference but tho I am on the mmpr program in Canada and use medicinally but have quit... My apologies. I have decided to not per sure the testosterone route. My question now is should I bother with any post cycle or is he 250 shot a small enough dosage to have minimal effect on HPTA? And yes I plan on goi to the doc for full blood work when I return to Canada to see where I am at.

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02 Feb 2016 03:14 #196056 by falconer1
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And yes I have been lifting, yoga, intermittent fasting, line pollen, tribulus, usually sleep well at home but I was under chronic stress and medicating and drinking coffee daily honest why I came down south to relax and balance out..

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02 Feb 2016 09:31 #196064 by Rooi Bul 86
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I would say run a PCT and get bloods done 6 weeks after to were you and your system is at don't stop the lifting and yoga

It is on you. It always has been...

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