Animal experiments?

What do you think of animal testing? Ie, doing experiments on animals for products to be used on humans?

Only people who'd refuse medication when their lives are in danger,are vegetarian, wear cotton and plastic clothing and donate half their paycheques to PETA can condemn animal testing. The rest are just hypocrites, much like the people who cry about global warming yet buy bottled water

Its more the WAY they are testing on the animals thats freaking me out!!! Like some people throw cutex down the animals throats to see how many cutex it takes to kill the animal. Thats sick!!

Thats not animal testing at all, thats just plain animal cruelty and the fuckers who do that stuff deserve a klap

In my eyes, animal cruelty and animal experiments are both wrong!!! I wish I can do the things they do to animals to them!! Eish....

Well if it wasn't for experimenting on animals, there wouldn't have been cures and treatments for a lot of diseases known to man today. I'm not saying that animals should be tortured but it is necessary for experiments to save lives.

Agree with Botma, animals are used as models mostly for the develpment of treatments for humans and to understand all the complexities of life. If it were not for animals, do you think we would be so advanced in the understading and the treatment of the many diseases that exist today? The answer is simply NO.

People always have issues with this but lets say a close friend or a member of the family could be treated for disease x all because we understand it from the use of experimental animals, would you then have a problem with it? NO.

Agreed with sting and bones, rather some rats than me

In no way do i agree that the way they test on animals is right, but sheesh we happily go out and buy tins of tuna, kg's of chicken breast etc and don't even give a thought to how those animals were processed/butchered... That to me is the real eye opener!

tbone wrote: In no way do i agree that the way they test on animals is right, but sheesh we happily go out and buy tins of tuna, kg's of chicken breast etc and don't even give a thought to how those animals were processed/butchered... That to me is the real eye opener!

I think we do care. But we place our trust in the authorities managing the humane killing/processing of animal products.
You see the public outcry when such things surface? Its huge.

I also trust that animal testing is done in a similar controlled fashion.

There are regulations set out to control animal testing as well as slaughtering to prevent cruelty. An example I've seen on TV some time ago was where sheep are pushed off lorries and they would fall 3-4m. That's unacceptable and the law also states among other things that animals waiting to be slaughtered should not be able to see others being killed... that might sound pointless if you reason that they will be killed in 10 min anyway, however animals do stress when they see others die or even if they smell blood and that is cruelty.

Of course some lab tests done on animals are fatal, but how else will potentially fatal dosages of drugs be determined for example?

I think people forget that everything they buy from a butchery was killed to become food. The question now is, what is the difference between killing an animal for food and killing it for research? Obviously, dying from slowly being poisoned by drugs is not nice, but the reality is that we have no choice and best would be to prevent cruelty at least.

www.animaltestingfacts.zoomshare.com/

The site gives some great statistics on the matter and a pretty good conclusion too...

I think Sting summed it up pretty well, its not of we wanting it but its a necessary evil. the alternate could be far worse. Imagine what would happen if we were allowed to do testing on humans, specially taking into account the nature of our society where the large percentage of our population is poor (and that might be an understatement).

With that in mind pharmaceutical compnaies would be able to pay big money for a couple guenea pigs, and poor and UNEDUCATED people would be drawn to it... I, personally, think this would be far worse.

And also like Deadgoat says there is a difference between animal experimentation and animal cruelty. The one can be justified in certain circumstances (like those which Admin hinted on) but animal cruelty? that should be punished

I agree with you guys on the matter to experiment on animals for cures/diseases/medicine and that kind of stuff.

Its more the focus on the beauty industries experimenting on animals, like I said before, this cutex company pouring cutex down animals throats to see when they die. That kind of experiments are just plain wrong.

The4tuneCookie wrote: Its more the focus on the beauty industries experimenting on animals, like I said before, this cutex company pouring cutex down animals throats to see when they die. That kind of experiments are just plain wrong.

I didn't know they do that! That's bad.

Relentless wrote: ....... Imagine what would happen if we were allowed to do testing on humans, specially taking into account the nature of our society where the large percentage of our population is poor (and that might be an understatement).

With that in mind pharmaceutical compnaies would be able to pay big money for a couple guenea pigs, and poor and UNEDUCATED people would be drawn to it... I, personally, think this would be far worse.......

Hahahaha - already happening. They pay good cash.

ok well i do animal experiments all the time.... i allow the mozzies to drink my blood to see if they grow instantly from the amount of gear in my body....soon there are gonna be some seriously hairy,muscular mozzies around.... sorry if they punch back if you try and squash them!

DJ wrote: ok well i do animal experiments all the time.... i allow the mozzies to drink my blood to see if they grow instantly from the amount of gear in my body....soon there are gonna be some seriously hairy,muscular mozzies around.... sorry if they punch back if you try and squash them!

Haha, damn, I hate mozzies!!!

Here is something that I read this morning and though that it was hectic!!!

Dogs sold to the university by the North Utah Valley Animal Shelter had holes cut into their chests and necks and pacemakers attached to their hearts in order to induce irregular heartbeats. The dogs were then killed and dissected.

Cats from animal shelters had holes drilled into their heads in one experiment. They also had hard plastic tubes forced down their delicate throats for archaic intubation training exercises even though the University of Utah — like U-M — has access to modern simulators.


See, this kind of experiments just pisses me off!!!

The thing is universities are meant to get ethics clearance first for all animal experiments. I don't see how ethics clearance would be given for something like that at all. If clearance wasn't given then that would fall under cruelty because you get some sick stories out there.

Do you guys and lady remember that sick story a few years back with some varsity that put a cat in the microwave and literally cooked it alive? ...just thinking about it makes me sick

Sting, people like that should be shot.

Agreed

00pump wrote: Sting, people like that should be shot.

dont agree. they should be put in a microwave aswell!

*grinz*

I was thinking just that and that the hardcore criminals such as the murderers should be used to as experimental beings instead of animals instead of putting them behind bars etc.

Problem is it would take a good hearted human being to do that to another person and then how is it any different to what these ugly ppl do