Mr O 2011

Congratulations to Phil, truly deserved it. Have to say Jay was looking far better than he did yesterday and thought he might steal it at the end. The one time Wolf actually gets it right he gets screwed by the judges :lol: fantastic result for Kai though

Thunderbeast wrote: Phil is not as african as you think...

Yeah... I hear he's American

Well done to Phil. :evil:

I'm surprised how far Phil has come he apparently only started training from 2003..so I presume he only started juicing from there too. How in the blue hell did he get that body in such a short period of time. Other guys like jay and branch have been training since late 80's early 90's.

SNOK1986 wrote: I'm surprised how far Phil has come he apparently only started training from 2003..so I presume he only started juicing from there too. How in the blue hell did he get that body in such a short period of time. Other guys like jay and branch have been training since late 80's early 90's.

Slight suspicion that he is genetically THE most GIFTed person on the planet...

Yip! That is exactly where the diff lies with these athletes. They are all extremely dedicated but genetics comes into play at that level. That unfortunately is also the reason you wont see Marius place top 8 at olympia any time soon. I say this with all the respect due to the guy cause i honestly do respect his dedication and commitment.

ABC01 wrote: Yip! That is exactly where the diff lies with these athletes. They are all extremely dedicated but genetics comes into play at that level. That unfortunately is also the reason you wont see Marius place top 8 at olympia any time soon. I say this with all the respect due to the guy cause i honestly do respect his dedication and commitment.

If marius can somehow just inflate a bit he can be a contender... he needs more size...

Marius I personally feel has to many genetic flaws to get higher,his outter quad has an extremely high tie in,his chest is too flat and doesn't have that overly thick muscular appearance that say the other top 10 do...his back I don't see getting any wider to compete with some one like wolf or martinez and heath... He is an excellent package but I don't see it getting any better than it already is...well done on his 14th placing though!

Well done to phil and all those who predicted he would take it. Jay there's always next year. :dry:

Awesome show and great battle between Phil and Jay. I feel Jay just didn't bring it this year, he looked better last year. Marius did very well and congrats to him for achieving the FLEX most improved IFBB pro for 2011 award, but I agree with DJ, his genetics can only take him so far to compete in the international level and I wonder what he plans to do next year. I believe he is attending the Sheru Classic but not sure if he's competing.

Any one else notice jays black bicep? Some people say its torn but to me it looks like dodge site injection...

yeah think I also noticed that DJ. I just felt jay was really lagging this year, maybe it's age

If you look closely, you will see it is as if jay's skin is not playing along anymore...
wrinkly... and not too elastic anymore...

Thunderbeast wrote: If you look closely, you will see it is as if jay's skin is not playing along anymore...
wrinkly... and not too elastic anymore...

yeah i noticed that too!!!

wow heath really took it ay. was in freaking awesome condition.

I have to agree with you his skin is not tight anymore maybe it's his age,feel sorry for him.