Difference between a Physiotherapist and a Chiro

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25 Aug 2011 07:15 #73898 by TSG
Hi guys

Many bodybuilders mention that they often go for therapy to keep their muscles healthy and free from injury. What's the difference between a physiotherapist and chiropractor? and which one is ideal/preferred for bodybuilders?

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25 Aug 2011 08:31 #73910 by crawler
i found this

www.onestophealth.com.au/The-difference-between.html

physio more for muscles i'd say, and chiro, more joint manipulation etc

i've been to both

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25 Aug 2011 08:39 #73912 by TSG
Thanks Crawler

Since you've been to both, which do you prefer to keep the muscles healthy?

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25 Aug 2011 08:54 #73916 by spike
Ok, here's the breakdown straight from the horses mouth.

Physiotherapists are... therapists. They cannot diagnose systemic problems and their focus is on muscle rehabilitaion and, wait for it, therapy. Post op care, post injury rehab, conditioning, and sports massage. Physiotherapists come in 2 forms, sports based and post op based. A sports physio with experience can diagnose muscle injuries and apply rehab and therapies to heal that injury. They complete a 4 year degree

Chiropractors are neuromusculoskelatal specialists. Meaning they specialise in injuries and abnormalities of the neurological system (nerves), skeleton and muscles. They include medical diagnostics in their training and are thus competent (not specialised) at diagnosing and differentiating systemic problems. As such one can see a Chiro as a primary health care practitioner and a physio as a secondary. Becasuse of this Chiro's get the title of Dr and they complete a Masters degree. Chioropractors deal with skeletal and joint abnormalities and injuries, neuro complications, and muscle injuries. Sports based chiro's will also do conditioning and strength and will be competent in rehab (post op and post injury).

There is alot of overlap between Chiro's and Physios and in many instances the 2 can work together very well, complementary care. Chiro's are based more on the wellness approach (as ''alternative'' practitioners) and Physio's fit into the mainstream medical model. As such maintenance and wellness care is prob better from a Chiro. They also have more access to joint and spine assessments.

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25 Aug 2011 09:20 #73920 by crawler
I'd say maybe you just need a good message therapist?

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25 Aug 2011 09:30 #73923 by TSG
Thanks alot Spike

Can a Chiro perform some of the treatment that a physio can? and vice versa

Also, What is Osteopathy?

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25 Aug 2011 09:33 #73924 by Etwa
another question, which profession of the two would be the best to get a deep tissue massage from?

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25 Aug 2011 09:35 #73925 by spike
Yeah, a Chiro can perform most of the treatment a physio can, there is a lot of overlap. Osteopaths are similar but different to chiros, not very big in SA

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25 Aug 2011 10:48 #73938 by Etwa
which profession of the two would be the best to get a deep tissue massage from spike or is it much of a muchness...?

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25 Aug 2011 15:20 #74009 by spike
That'll be a physio etwa... I wouldnt try my luck with asking a chiro for a massage :P Some will but my general response is F!@$@ off, i didnt study 7 years to be a masseuse :P

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25 Aug 2011 15:46 #74014 by Etwa

spike wrote: That'll be a physio etwa... I wouldnt try my luck with asking a chiro for a massage :P Some will but my general response is F!@$@ off, i didnt study 7 years to be a masseuse :P


LOL! fair enough

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25 Aug 2011 16:02 #74017 by jackrabbit1
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spike wrote: That'll be a physio etwa... I wouldnt try my luck with asking a chiro for a massage :P Some will but my general response is F!@$@ off, i didnt study 7 years to be a masseuse :P


At R300 a visit you will do as i say! BITCH! :evil:
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25 Aug 2011 16:04 #74019 by STUARTF

jackrabbit1 wrote:

spike wrote: That'll be a physio etwa... I wouldnt try my luck with asking a chiro for a massage :P Some will but my general response is F!@$@ off, i didnt study 7 years to be a masseuse :P


At R300 a visit you will do as i say! BITCH! :evil:


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25 Aug 2011 19:00 #74038 by spike
hahaha, not even for that. I'll do some soft tissue work but you wont catch me doing a massage. The only person that i massage is my girlfriend, and i dont think you want that ending ;)

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25 Aug 2011 19:38 #74045 by jackrabbit1
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spike wrote: hahaha, not even for that. I'll do some soft tissue work but you wont catch me doing a massage. The only person that i massage is my girlfriend, and i dont think you want that ending ;)


Hahahaha! Must say its difficult to find a good massage at a place that doesnt sound dodgy. I know the Physio students put up tents at sports events to make some extra cash. Maybe recruit one or two of them for some cash on the side every now and then.

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26 Aug 2011 07:36 #74064 by TSG
are the male chiro's better than the females one's, in terms of the pressure/technique used?

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26 Aug 2011 08:46 #74073 by spike
while guys will generally have the strength advantage, the girls will have to have their techniques that much more exact. But it will come down to personal preference. I normally prefer a guy as i know it often takes a bit more strength to get some adjustments done on me due to muscle tension

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26 Aug 2011 10:54 #74094 by tiny

spike wrote: Ok, here's the breakdown straight from the horses mouth.

Physiotherapists are... therapists. They cannot diagnose systemic problems and their focus is on muscle rehabilitaion and, wait for it, therapy. Post op care, post injury rehab, conditioning, and sports massage. Physiotherapists come in 2 forms, sports based and post op based. A sports physio with experience can diagnose muscle injuries and apply rehab and therapies to heal that injury. They complete a 4 year degree

Chiropractors are neuromusculoskelatal specialists. Meaning they specialise in injuries and abnormalities of the neurological system (nerves), skeleton and muscles. They include medical diagnostics in their training and are thus competent (not specialised) at diagnosing and differentiating systemic problems. As such one can see a Chiro as a primary health care practitioner and a physio as a secondary. Becasuse of this Chiro's get the title of Dr and they complete a Masters degree. Chioropractors deal with skeletal and joint abnormalities and injuries, neuro complications, and muscle injuries. Sports based chiro's will also do conditioning and strength and will be competent in rehab (post op and post injury).

There is alot of overlap between Chiro's and Physios and in many instances the 2 can work together very well, complementary care. Chiro's are based more on the wellness approach (as ''alternative'' practitioners) and Physio's fit into the mainstream medical model. As such maintenance and wellness care is prob better from a Chiro. They also have more access to joint and spine assessments.

Any other questions?


About 3 months ago,i screwed my lower back with deadlifts.I didnt quit when i was supposed to,i threw in that 1 last set for the burn effect.It stuffed by lower back badly,i feel an intense pain deep in my lower back on either side of my spine near the tailbone.I've been to a physio for quite a few sessions.She gave me an ultra sound massage and some stretching.It helped for a while but the pain comes and goes.And i can no longer squat or deadlift :(

Should i see a chiro? How will he treat my problem?

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26 Aug 2011 12:30 #74103 by spike
well it sounds like an acute injury of the erector spinae or other deep lumbar muscles. There may also be a joint pathology associated with it. Massage and stretching is great but may be passing the issue by. Id use dry needling to release any spasm in the muscles involved and possibly manipulation of the sacroiliac joints and/or lower lumbar spine to release joint fixations and help release surrounding spasm. Go see a chiro for a proper assessment of the lower back including motion palpation. Lower back injuries are the bread and butter of chiropractors

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26 Aug 2011 14:35 #74120 by tiny

spike wrote: well it sounds like an acute injury of the erector spinae or other deep lumbar muscles. There may also be a joint pathology associated with it. Massage and stretching is great but may be passing the issue by. Id use dry needling to release any spasm in the muscles involved and possibly manipulation of the sacroiliac joints and/or lower lumbar spine to release joint fixations and help release surrounding spasm. Go see a chiro for a proper assessment of the lower back including motion palpation. Lower back injuries are the bread and butter of chiropractors


Thanks bro

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