How will I know if Clen is working

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31 Aug 2011 09:11 #74640 by Subs
Hi. Please help.
I've started on a cycle of Clenbutaplex and am concerned that it may not be working.
I'm on 60 mcg at day 6. Started off with 20 mcg on day 1, then 40 on day 2 & 3 and 60 on days 4, 5 and 6.
This is the first time i have tried any product like this. I have not had any side effects at all, infact i feel 100%. How would i know if the clen is working?

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31 Aug 2011 09:13 #74641 by admin
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Increased temperature is the most reliable way. Problem is that you didn't take your temp before you started, so now you will have noting to compare it with. Usually you will take your temp in the morning when waking up and when clen is working there should be a 0.1-0.5C increase.
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31 Aug 2011 09:28 #74644 by VonD
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another sign that the clen is working is you will experience shakes in your hands as well as you will feel hotter.I am on 60mcg now and definitely feel a difference.Third sign to see if its working is the scale...

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31 Aug 2011 09:34 #74647 by Subs
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Thanks.
Unfortunately, no shakes in my hands and definitely not feeling hotter. The scale is no help either as it's actually showing a slight increase.:-(
Definitely worried now....

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31 Aug 2011 09:50 #74650 by crawler
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I experienced cramps on it

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31 Aug 2011 10:06 #74651 by VonD
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Subs post your diet and workout program.we will be able to help you then.

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31 Aug 2011 10:08 #74652 by admin
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Shakes are not a reliable way, because many do not get them. The ONLY reliable way is a temperate increase.

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31 Aug 2011 10:11 #74655 by VonD
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admin wrote: Shakes are not a reliable way, because many do not get them. The ONLY reliable way is a temperate increase.


Yes shakes are not a definite sign but most guys i have talked to has got them.But temp is the most prominent one.

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31 Aug 2011 10:36 #74666 by Subs
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Thanks for the feedback thus far. Just wanted to also mention that I am a female (shouldn’t that make me less tolerant to the clen?)
I’m at gym 5 days a week (1 hour sessions). 10 mins of moderate cardio a day followed by strength and core training. I alternate upper and lower body workout.
My diet is not too bad (not too great either).
Wholegrain cereal for breakfast,
Peanuts/almonds for morning snack
Grilled chicken/ minute steak/ chicken salad/ tuna salad for lunch
A fruit for afternoon snack
Pasta/ grilled fish/ chicken stir-fry/ grilled lamb chops/ veggies for dinner

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31 Aug 2011 11:06 #74670 by VonD
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The pasta at night is not such a great thing rather eat steak/chicken/mince.You can up you cardio maybe to 20min.5min 4.5km/h @ 12.5 degrees incline.Next 5min 4.5km/h @13 degrees.next 5min 5km/h @ 13.5degrees incline.next 5min 5km/h @ 15 degrees incline.This is the routine i do for my cardio only i do 25-30min. :)

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31 Aug 2011 11:10 #74671 by Subs
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Thanks VonD. Will give that a try.

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31 Aug 2011 14:29 #74693 by Empire
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at 60mcg u should be getting some trembling, even some cramps... thats how i know if clen is real,at 40mcg i cramp and shake like a leaf

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31 Aug 2011 15:51 #74698 by VonD
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DJ wrote: at 60mcg u should be getting some trembling, even some cramps... thats how i know if clen is real,at 40mcg i cramp and shake like a leaf


did not know the clen can give you cramps...Have been getting cramps on a daily basis.

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31 Aug 2011 17:05 #74706 by admin
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Yeah the craps can be pretty bad sometimes. Taurine seems to help a little.

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31 Aug 2011 17:55 #74710 by Ondier
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Subs wrote: Hi. Please help.
I've started on a cycle of Clenbutaplex and am concerned that it may not be working.
I'm on 60 mcg at day 6. Started off with 20 mcg on day 1, then 40 on day 2 & 3 and 60 on days 4, 5 and 6.
This is the first time i have tried any product like this. I have not had any side effects at all, infact i feel 100%. How would i know if the clen is working?


Subs my honest opinion is you are using a very crappy Clenbuterol. Clenbutaplex is made by Axio labs, and is probably the cheapest clen around.

I have a lady friend who used LP's Clen, and she shaked like Elvis on 20mcg. You are definitely using an underdosed product imo, BUT do not try and up it too much now at once- another thing you upped your doses quite fast, usually takes about three days for one to tolerate each dose.

You can up your dose systematically until you reach a final daily dose of 120mcg. Don't ever exceed that.

I'm thinking you might not have the real deal there. Check your batch number here to see if it is authentic: www.axiolabs.com/en/product-authenticity/check-by-batch-number/

And remember to drink 15ml(which is 3gm) of Adco Zetofen (S2) every night before bed- about R70 at Dischem otc.

And the best way is your temperature like Admin said. Normal condition and healthy temperature is 37. That may go up or down with about 0.6 degrees with hormonal changes like ovulation or menstruation.

I would say you know it is working if your temp is over 38, and off course, the ritteltits ;)

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31 Aug 2011 18:21 #74713 by STUARTF
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admin wrote: Yeah the craps can be pretty bad sometimes. Taurine seems to help a little.


Just started taking magnesium tablets, seems to help with the clen cramps as well.

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31 Aug 2011 19:36 #74721 by admin
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Yep, I used those as well.

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31 Aug 2011 21:46 #74731 by 00pump
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Magnesium helps and so does iron, but becareful with iron

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01 Sep 2011 08:26 #74746 by Subs
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Thanks Ondier. I started taking 80 mcg today and still nothing. So i went to link u sent to check if the clen is real and suprise suprise.......it's NOT.
So i don't know what to do now. My hubby says that it's packaged by someone here so it is real and that i should give it some time to work.
By the way, what is the Adco Zetofen for? (pls excuse my ignorance)

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01 Sep 2011 08:30 - 01 Sep 2011 08:39 #74747 by admin
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Subs wrote: Thanks Ondier. I started taking 80 mcg today and still nothing. So i went to link u sent to check if the clen is real and suprise suprise.......it's NOT.
So i don't know what to do now. My hubby says that it's packaged by someone here so it is real and that i should give it some time to work.
By the way, what is the Adco Zetofen for? (pls excuse my ignorance)


Before you yell it's fake, just note that Axio do not update their database that often and almost all Axio products in SA show fake, but that is not necessarily the case.

For some reason people think that LP's liquid Clen is inferior to tablets, but let me correct that. The reason LP makes Clen in liquid form is not because they don't have tablet press equipment (they do), but instead they chose liquid as it's a million times more accurate than any dry pill press can achieve. The only tablet presses that can make Clen tabs accurately are those that use wet excipients and those are extremely expensive and complicated to operate. Not sure what Axio use though...

Read the clen profile in the drug profiles section to know what the ketotifen is for.
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01 Sep 2011 08:34 #74749 by Subs
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Yep that is what my hubby says as well so I'm going to stick to it.

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01 Sep 2011 08:41 #74750 by Ondier
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Subs wrote: Thanks Ondier. I started taking 80 mcg today and still nothing. So i went to link u sent to check if the clen is real and suprise suprise.......it's NOT.
So i don't know what to do now. My hubby says that it's packaged by someone here so it is real and that i should give it some time to work.
By the way, what is the Adco Zetofen for? (pls excuse my ignorance)


No problem Subs :)

Adco Zetofen or Adco Ketotifen, it is the same thing. But I know there is a shortage a our local Dischems, maybe confirmation of the rumor about being discontinued by Adcock like Admin posted.

Clenbuterol is a ß2 (Beta 2) agonist with stimulant and thermogenic effects. It causes an increase in aerobic capacity, central nervous system stimulation, and an increase in blood pressure and oxygen transportation. It increases the rate at which body fat is metabolized, simultaneously increasing the body's basal metabolic rate (BMR). In the past clenbuterol was cycled in on and off periods of about 2 weeks in an attempt to minimize receptor down-regulation. This is not necessary anymore, because drugs like ketotifen can now be taken in conjunction with clenbuterol. Ketotifen is an antihistamine used for asthma treatment in children. Ketotifen also up-regulates ß2 receptors making clenbuterol more effective and for longer periods. To have this up-regulatory effect it should be used at 3mg per day.
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01 Sep 2011 08:49 - 01 Sep 2011 08:53 #74751 by STUARTF
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Subs wrote: Thanks Ondier. I started taking 80 mcg today and still nothing. So i went to link u sent to check if the clen is real and suprise suprise.......it's NOT.
So i don't know what to do now. My hubby says that it's packaged by someone here so it is real and that i should give it some time to work.
By the way, what is the Adco Zetofen for? (pls excuse my ignorance)


Zetofen made by Adco is a compound called ketotifen. It is sold as an anti-histamine but for our puposes it is used to up-regulate beta-2 receptors. This is beneficial to clen or ephedrine users as these compounds have an effect in down-regulating beta-receptors. Ketotifen (or Beatsleep) allows clen to be used for longer periods of time as it keeps these receptors "fresh".
(The reason why clen is recommended to be cycled '2 weeks on', '2 weeks off', is to allow beta-receptors to regenrate in the '2 week off' periods).

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01 Sep 2011 08:52 #74752 by STUARTF
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Sorry Ondier, posted same time...

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01 Sep 2011 09:01 #74754 by Ondier
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Hehe no probs brother :P

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