00pump wrote:
AvR, true, but and I could have carried on pushing it but, I would have landed up dead. I would love to know the stats and truth of how many top atheletes who cycle year round, what health issues, and how many have a clear bill of health? Have you seen the decrease in size of all atheletes when they stop competeing, why did they stop competing? Why do they want to lose size? My thoughts is their bodies give up and then they need to rather have long breaks in between cycles and because of this they cant keep near the same muscle mass.
AvR:
Interesting, I don't know much on the topic of what the professional athletes use and for how long they use it but I think it is not worth your health to stay on permanently in the long run. I would never do it. There is a guy at my gym (he also has a supplement shop in the gym), who trains the same time in the morning as I do. I have to be honest, he looks really well. He took 2nd place at Carnival city the other day, can't remember the competition's name.
When I asked him about my cycle and PCT, he suggested that I should start PCT directly after my cycle and that I could start my next cycle 5 weeks after my last shot of test. Don’t know why one would even do a PCT when doing it this way anyway. I would never take his advice of course and stick to the recommended guides of tome on + PCT = time off. But like I said, the guy looks great.
How long would it take to get into reasonable shape following the recommended guide lines for using steroids vs natural vs doing it the wrong way (staying on almost permanently). How many kg can one expect in lets say a year. I know diet is also important but let's say that's sorted.
PS, I just copied and pasted my post from another thread... didn't feel like typing the whole thing over again...
