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20 Feb 2014 08:09 #161834
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Ok so i have been giving this Insulin drug/enhancement a LOT of thought. I am fully aware of the complications that can easily arise hence why i have not made up my mind completely yet. With all the information i have gathered there are a couple ways to take it but the safest to me from what i am understanding about the drug/enhancement is to take 10iu's immediately after training.
Am i wrong in saying this and if i am what would be the best suggestion?
There was also the suggestion of 2iu's either before every meal but this to me sounds like a diabetics way of life.
Can you guys help me make my mind up please?
Again i fully understand the complications and life threatening situations that could arise. I am willing to take ANY advice given even if it is DONT DO IT!!!
Am i wrong in saying this and if i am what would be the best suggestion?
There was also the suggestion of 2iu's either before every meal but this to me sounds like a diabetics way of life.
Can you guys help me make my mind up please?
Again i fully understand the complications and life threatening situations that could arise. I am willing to take ANY advice given even if it is DONT DO IT!!!
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20 Feb 2014 08:16 #161835
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Unless u are well educated as far as insulin goes U are playing with fire bru...
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20 Feb 2014 08:24 #161836
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I couldnt agree more with you thats why i am asking what would be ideal usage. I understand that the only 2 organs in your body that once stopped cant be started again which are Pancreas and Thyroid. I wont dive in to it so soon as i still need to learn a lot about the hormone. There is a doctor that can help so i am contemplating going mto see him but he is a family doctor so im a bit nervous. Lol.
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20 Feb 2014 08:53 #161839
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dude, don't do it hey....
i spent many weeks and months researching this topic, and iv seen half my gym attempt it. all failed, some now diabetics, fat or still look shit to put it frank.
there is far more to do and try before the use of slin, eg, juice, hgh, igf etc etc you get the point. and insulin only becomes really effective when you are including all of the above mentioned compounds and at an elite level.
it will really have no positive effect on the average gym go'er besides scary health complications.
its not as simple as pinning 10iu post workout with a carb loaded meal unfortunately.
im not going to go into too much detail as everyone will prob think they can master slin and go buy it. im not an expert but i have really researched this topic.
if your not a top competitive athlete/ pro and under strict coaching/doctors guidance etc. its just not worth it.
i spent many weeks and months researching this topic, and iv seen half my gym attempt it. all failed, some now diabetics, fat or still look shit to put it frank.
there is far more to do and try before the use of slin, eg, juice, hgh, igf etc etc you get the point. and insulin only becomes really effective when you are including all of the above mentioned compounds and at an elite level.
it will really have no positive effect on the average gym go'er besides scary health complications.
its not as simple as pinning 10iu post workout with a carb loaded meal unfortunately.
im not going to go into too much detail as everyone will prob think they can master slin and go buy it. im not an expert but i have really researched this topic.
if your not a top competitive athlete/ pro and under strict coaching/doctors guidance etc. its just not worth it.
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20 Feb 2014 09:12 #161840
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Perfect thats my deciding factor. Thank you bud.
I was literally at the guys door about to collect my 300iu pen when i got cold feet and pulled out. Now i know it was for a good reason. So thank you again.
I was literally at the guys door about to collect my 300iu pen when i got cold feet and pulled out. Now i know it was for a good reason. So thank you again.
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20 Feb 2014 09:21 #161843
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Bud u not gonna get much help here in regards to the topic of insulin. We, well me, dont like handing out information about a substance that has possible fatal side effects if not done correctly. Its not something people should play with in a loose term, its a potent substance and like pp said its for the elite. Combining it with the other for mentioned substances pp has listed will yield amazing results but also those substances with out insulin will also yield amazing results anyway! Just stick with juice, , training hard and dieting clean. This is the best option for u to grow. Remember food is the most anabolic substance on the planet.
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20 Feb 2014 13:41 - 20 Feb 2014 13:43 #161888
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DJ pretty much summed it up. But to add to that, taking insulin without also using high doses of HGH will be a waste of time and just make you fat. The primary anabolic effect mediated by insulin besides transporting nutrients into cells is it's ability to dramatically increase growth hormone receptor expression. When HGH binds with these receptors IGF1 is produced, and it is IGF1 that is responsible for new growth.
Without HGH you can't take advantage of the abundance of HGH receptors caused by high levels of insulin, and without insulin you can't produce adequate IGF1 to cause new muscle growth. Luckily we can manipulate our carb intake to make the most of our own insulin production and this is more than enough unless you are a top level bodybuilder. Many elite bodybuilders don't even use it.
Without HGH you can't take advantage of the abundance of HGH receptors caused by high levels of insulin, and without insulin you can't produce adequate IGF1 to cause new muscle growth. Luckily we can manipulate our carb intake to make the most of our own insulin production and this is more than enough unless you are a top level bodybuilder. Many elite bodybuilders don't even use it.
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20 Feb 2014 17:58 - 20 Feb 2014 18:06 #161938
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as much as i love to link you guys with videos.
part 1:
@t-style , start watching from 6 minutes
yes, i know this guy looks like a fat lesbian....
but
this guy speaks SO much truth, honestly.
basically, insulin , if you don't know what you are doing will either make you fat, diabetic, or both, or even kill you. Also dont abuse the shit, like everything else in life, cycle it on and off, and dont go crazy on the dosages.
part 1:
@t-style , start watching from 6 minutes
yes, i know this guy looks like a fat lesbian....
but
this guy speaks SO much truth, honestly.
basically, insulin , if you don't know what you are doing will either make you fat, diabetic, or both, or even kill you. Also dont abuse the shit, like everything else in life, cycle it on and off, and dont go crazy on the dosages.
milk is for babies, real men drink beer - the oak
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20 Feb 2014 18:13 #161941
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If its worth doing, its worth doing properly.
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I would not touch insulin with a 10 meter barge-pole.
If its worth doing, its worth doing properly.
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21 Feb 2014 08:50 #161986
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I give him credit for his honesty, as not many guys will admit to or speak about there cycles.
BUT at the same time he is a total idiot, he uses extreme doses, I read an article on testosterone nation that he admitted to using 13grams of juice a WEEK... just for shits and giggles and to see what would happen. in all fairness its his body so whatever just the problem is some noob comes along and finds his videos, hears how easy it is and the great benefits and goes and plugs those doses into himself, the guy is still a lighty and I don't see him living too long to be honest, just go do a Google search on him, countless images of infections and abscesses etc. just too wreck less.
BUT at the same time he is a total idiot, he uses extreme doses, I read an article on testosterone nation that he admitted to using 13grams of juice a WEEK... just for shits and giggles and to see what would happen. in all fairness its his body so whatever just the problem is some noob comes along and finds his videos, hears how easy it is and the great benefits and goes and plugs those doses into himself, the guy is still a lighty and I don't see him living too long to be honest, just go do a Google search on him, countless images of infections and abscesses etc. just too wreck less.
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21 Feb 2014 10:08 #161999
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Yeah i have watched this one. Watched a lot of his videos as i pretty much live on youtube. LOL. In saying that i would NEVER take his advice.
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morning77 wrote: as much as i love to link you guys with videos.
part 1:
@t-style , start watching from 6 minutes
yes, i know this guy looks like a fat lesbian....
but
this guy speaks SO much truth, honestly.
basically, insulin , if you don't know what you are doing will either make you fat, diabetic, or both, or even kill you. Also dont abuse the shit, like everything else in life, cycle it on and off, and dont go crazy on the dosages.
Yeah i have watched this one. Watched a lot of his videos as i pretty much live on youtube. LOL. In saying that i would NEVER take his advice.
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21 Feb 2014 11:44 #162011
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This dude is a damn fool and he is gonna end up killing somebody with his dosages. If you have watched some other videos then you would see that he injects oil which should tell you enough about him. To any new guys reading this thread, please STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM INSULIN!!
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morning77 wrote: as much as i love to link you guys with videos.
part 1:
@t-style , start watching from 6 minutes
yes, i know this guy looks like a fat lesbian....
but
this guy speaks SO much truth, honestly.
basically, insulin , if you don't know what you are doing will either make you fat, diabetic, or both, or even kill you. Also dont abuse the shit, like everything else in life, cycle it on and off, and dont go crazy on the dosages.
This dude is a damn fool and he is gonna end up killing somebody with his dosages. If you have watched some other videos then you would see that he injects oil which should tell you enough about him. To any new guys reading this thread, please STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM INSULIN!!
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21 Feb 2014 13:15 #162021
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milk is for babies, real men drink beer - the oak
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phil heath, cutler, flex wheeler, all those guys used oil, its nothing "rare" or special
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21 Feb 2014 14:22 #162029
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It's stupid, and so is your posts.
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21 Feb 2014 14:39 #162030
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OOhhh take that Moring77!
If its worth doing, its worth doing properly.
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Oupa wrote: and so is your posts.
OOhhh take that Moring77!
If its worth doing, its worth doing properly.
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21 Feb 2014 14:46 #162031
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took the words right out my mouth bro
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Oupa wrote: It's stupid, and so is your posts.
took the words right out my mouth bro
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21 Feb 2014 15:48 #162041
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"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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You have to be pretty f-ing stupid to die from slin, just saying.
"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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21 Feb 2014 15:49 #162042
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Are they not always..?
Go big or go home...
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Oupa wrote: It's stupid, and so is your posts.
Are they not always..?
Go big or go home...
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21 Feb 2014 16:14 #162045
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you guys are just mad thats all, like the guy said, to die from insulin you have to be really f*cking stupid.
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21 Feb 2014 16:57 - 21 Feb 2014 16:59 #162055
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Go big or go home...
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Death if uneducated is very possible but not the only side. Blindness, diabetes and a load more.
My Mother is a Doctor and has always said that should my Dad die before her or if either of them were terminal they'd sit on the beach with a bottle of wine and then she'd off themselves with Slin as it's the easiest way to do go...
You have to be a cock to try the stuff without it being administered by a Doc wich I guarantee you the Pro's that use it do and not all of them are on Slin.!
So it has no place in all us Wanna be Pros lives...
My Mother is a Doctor and has always said that should my Dad die before her or if either of them were terminal they'd sit on the beach with a bottle of wine and then she'd off themselves with Slin as it's the easiest way to do go...
You have to be a cock to try the stuff without it being administered by a Doc wich I guarantee you the Pro's that use it do and not all of them are on Slin.!
So it has no place in all us Wanna be Pros lives...
Go big or go home...
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22 Feb 2014 12:58 #162133
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If someone on this thread is an asshole and they know then clap your hands! Hope you clapping 77!
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morning77 wrote: you guys are just mad thats all, like the guy said, to die from insulin you have to be really f*cking stupid.
If someone on this thread is an asshole and they know then clap your hands! Hope you clapping 77!
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22 Feb 2014 13:27 #162137
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Ok stop now.
To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.
"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie
Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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FIllet wrote:
morning77 wrote: you guys are just mad thats all, like the guy said, to die from insulin you have to be really f*cking stupid.
If someone on this thread is an asshole and they know then clap your hands! Hope you clapping 77!
Ok stop now.
To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.
"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie
Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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22 Feb 2014 13:28 #162138
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Morning please can you try limit your inflammatory posts to at least 1 a month. I'm all for opinions but there is a 'right' way of communicating, something which seems to escape you.
To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.
"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie
Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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morning77 wrote: you guys are just mad thats all, like the guy said, to die from insulin you have to be really f*cking stupid.
Morning please can you try limit your inflammatory posts to at least 1 a month. I'm all for opinions but there is a 'right' way of communicating, something which seems to escape you.
To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.
"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie
Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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22 Feb 2014 14:04 #162147
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This thread is a disgrace to our forum. Learn to disagree like grown-ups.
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