insulin

Jeez thats quite hectic. Am I right in saying that using insulin wont help build muscle but rather add size to the user. Is the use of insulin the reason why body builders today are so much larger than previous generations or has synthetic versions of insulin always been used body builders

4.5 to 5.5 is a good reading depen2ing if you have eaten or not. You can run up to 30 plus and still live, but running high your blood becomes thick so you get issues with going blind quicker, losing limbs due to circulation issues. However drop to 2 and you going to become like a drunk, you may even get to the point you don't know what is happening around you, you can't see keys on your phone or even know how to dial a number. Go lower and you can slip into a coma and start having seizures. If you use this stuff make sure you know what you doing

00pump wrote: 4.5 to 5.5 is a good reading depen2ing if you have eaten or not. You can run up to 30 plus and still live, but running high your blood becomes thick so you get issues with going blind quicker, losing limbs due to circulation issues. However drop to 2 and you going to become like a drunk, you may even get to the point you don't know what is happening around you, you can't see keys on your phone or even know how to dial a number. Go lower and you can slip into a coma and start having seizures. If you use this stuff make sure you know what you doing

Jeez Pump :S That's scary stuff and I thought Anapolon was hectic

Diet+training+steroids+hgh+igf+insulin= A Champion Bodybuilder.

Klasvaakie jou moer :dry: Just remember steroid abuse + insulin abuse = champion dead bodybuiler. There's an extremely fine line when it comes to this stuff. Results seem to be great if you already have a lot of muscle mass as it pushes aminos right into the muscle bellies. Makes you look nice and full.

Genetics + Genetics + Genetics + Genetics + Diet + Training + Rest + Steroids + GH = Champion bodybuilder... If you can't win a pro show on that stack, don't waste your time with slin .

Pump what you say is true but its also true what brian dobson in branch warrens video.when you get to the upper level of bodybuilding genetics are not enough anymore you need to "train hard"(i guess he forgot to mention the roids,igf,hgh,insulin) :whistle: but you have to reach a certain level without igf,hgh and insulin.i believe you need to max out on every level from being natural -using steroids-using steroids and hgh-roids,hgh,igf-roids,hgh,igf,insulin.as jakes said you must use not abuse.

VonD correct... And you right when you hit pro, and you want to take Mr O, you need it all... But you need to be able to win a pro show first in my opinion, i'm not a pro, so I'm not really qualified to answer this, but thats what I would do if I was... Then i'd go all out.

Dont want to sound stupid guys but why is IGF so dangerous?

gorilla wrote: Dont want to sound stupid guys but why is IGF so dangerous?

IGF from my research is similar to Insulin in structure so I assume the side effects are also similar, read pumps post above about some of the potential side effects

IGF is much less dangerous than Insulin... Its like a bicycle compared to a yamaha R1. If you are already big IGF is a good choice. If you aren't at least over 100 and under 10% don't even consider the stuff as it won't do much

Hey pump.
You mentioned that your brothers are also type 1 like myself.
Are they also into body building?
When I was 16 years old I was told to use 42 units of isln a day (which is overdose in my opinion). I had to literally keep my stomach full of food through the day to avoid hypo's and I gained weight madly.
Last year I stated using the ratio of about 1iu:15g carbs with more cardio
and droped bf% from 23 to 15.
Since I have to use this stuff to stay alive I figured I might aswell learn how to
benefit from its anabolic property and experiment to find out how use it to get
optimal lean gains.