First HGH cycle

I am 42 1.72 m and 10% body fat. I completed my first cycle last year November and went from 72kg up to 77kg and now back to 75 kg. Right at the end of the cycle I got an acne breakout on my shoulders which I struggled to clear. Now on 3rd month of Roaccutane and almost clear. I must still continue the course for several months and want to spare my liver an anabolic cycle plus ensure oil glands have reduced before trying again. I am keen to do an HGH cycle in the mean time. I know not to expect big weight gains but would be happy for now with some fat loss, strength increase and anti aging effects. My trainer has access but not sure I trust his advice. Would appreciate some guidance on how to plan the cycle.

Hi Duncan. If you are doing HGH for fatloss then dosages would range from anything below 4iu/day. Muscle building effects will be noticable from 5iu and above. This is obviously dependant on the quality of the HGH, i.e pharma grade (norditropin, humatrope, jintropin) will have a much better effect than UG HGH (Kefei, nomatropin, hygetropin). Dosages will be that much less respectively. I have had good fat loss effects on 2.5iu humatrope per day.

Cycles of HGH will have to also be a minimum of 3 months for any quality results. There are also different injection protocols to use i.e. 5 days on, 2 days off or 4 days on, 1 day off. This will be determined by your budget.

Timing of shots is also important and it is opimal to divide dosages in two shots/day. Early morning are best when natural GH levels are lowest for your first shot and afternoons (5pm) before training for second shot. Please don't listen to guys that tell you to inject directly before bed as this is the worst time as natural GH levels spike during the first few hours of REM sleep.

Thanks a lot Stuartf - that was very helpful. So if I train early morning and have a decent budget would 3 iU first thing before (?) gym and again at 5 pm be okay? Thinking 5 days on and 2 off. Also in terms of getting pharma grade, what brands should I be asking for and if I am staying away from steroids are there other compounds I should cycle the GH with? The article on this site says I should be using estrogen suppressors.

Ok, so if your dosage/day is 3iu, then it will be 1.5iu in the morning (6am) and the other at 5pm before training.
If you are going for pharma grade then I would get Norditropin. Humatrope is a close second.
Compounds to cycle with the HGH would be T4 or a T3/T4 combo (diotroxin). This will make the HGH more effective as well has give you aided fat loss.
No need to use estrogen suppressors, which article was that? Estrogen suppresors or AIs will only be required when using very androgenic steroids or steroids that convert to estrogen very easily. HGH has no effect on estrogen.

Ok thanks. Was thinking of doing 3 + 3 ie. 6 iU and also i train in the morning at 5 am so then do shot at 4:30am and another at 5 pm.

As much as gh lowers thyroid levels I would never take t3/t4 with out anabolics,if u worried about the t3 levels then run some t2 from solal with some thyroid support formula..

Thanks. So my trainer says he can get jintropin but I am concerned it may be faked. Also may be able to get nomatropin from nomad labs which has decent reviews online. Would have liked the convenience of the norditropin pen. Any advice?

Hi DJ. On the following advise that you gave:
"As much as gh lowers thyroid levels I would never take t3/t4 with out anabolics,if u worried about the t3 levels then run some t2 from solal with some thyroid support formula.."

Can you please give more information. I am also interested in using HGH. Like Duncan I gym at 05:00 am and not in the afternoon. I want to use the HGH for weight loss. I am not sure which dosages and also not sure what exactly T@ or T3 does

thanks

funce wrote: Hi DJ. On the following advise that you gave:
"As much as gh lowers thyroid levels I would never take t3/t4 with out anabolics,if u worried about the t3 levels then run some t2 from solal with some thyroid support formula.."

Can you please give more information. I am also interested in using HGH. Like Duncan I gym at 05:00 am and not in the afternoon. I want to use the HGH for weight loss. I am not sure which dosages and also not sure what exactly T@ or T3 does

thanks

If all alse fails... ask google

if you are on a building cycle can you also use a HGH that they sell on the shelf in between to increase gains? I know the shelf "HGH" isn't as good as the real deal, but the real deal is so expensive... is it possible and will it effect the cycle?

I dont think that it will but would just like more opinions...

Hi, i am 35 years old,been training for the past 3 years now.
i have never used steroids or HGh before. i feel like i have now reached a platau in my training,and its become increasingly difficult for me to keep my fat percentage down.
i am seriously thinking of starting a course of HGH.
i would appreciate some advice as to what to use and how etc..

I don't think anyone will say it is a bad thing, all I would suggest is for you to go and check you all clear on the cancer side.
Thats just my limited humble experience.

Hi

So I have now been on nomatropin HGH for 3 months, supplemented with solal T2 and thyroid support formula as advised. I am very happy with fat loss and other results but keen to add a steady 2 to 4 kg lean mass now (as per earlier posts I am 42, 75 kg and now <10% body fat). I have done one cycle before and kept about 3 kg of the 5 or so I initially added. I have read quite a lot now and think the following makes sense. Please let me have any thoughts or advice.

Week 1 to 8: testosterone propionate 100 mg EOD, Primobolan depot 100mg EOD and 10mg Anavar 2 x daily (stabilizes at about 120 mg of steroids in blood each day)
Week 1 to 12 (and for the past 3 months): HGH 2.5 IU 2 x daily for 5 days per week
Week 3 to 8: T3 20 micro grams going up to 100 and back down again split over 2 daily doses
Week 10: clomid 2 x 50 mg daily
Week 11 to 12: nolvadex 20 mg daily

Thanks
Duncan

new to this site, i have a quesetion also
I am 29yr female, new mom and wanting to get my body back fast
i am 5`10, 192 lbs
i have started GH kigtropin @ 2iu's daily 1 first thing in the morning and the other around 5pm
i also am taking anavar @ 20mg daily and clen @ 50mg alternating days

being a new mom i work out when i get the chance, atleast every other day, mostly cardio a lil weights and abs
ive been getting sore feet almost cramps when doing cardio, heard that was an effect of anavar at to take potassium and magnessium.
am i doing this right, been a month now, no weight loss but body shape has changed and lost a couple inches
thanks in adance