Help me to start my Tren Cycle

steroido
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16 Mar 2009 09:36 #10666 by steroido

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am thinking of starting a cycle with just trenbolone acetate and test enathate. all i need now is HCG. is it the same stuff as ovidrel?
also, can anyone give me some pointers, eg. how long a tren cycle should be and the recommended doses and if i need anything more besides the tren, test and HCG..

thanks

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Empire
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16 Mar 2009 11:28 #10668 by Empire

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why not look at doing a short 6 week cycle of tren acetate,winstrol(or masteron) and test prop,u would need 20mls of each with eod injection protocol,add a fat burner in,u can do 2 weeks clen,2 weeks eca,2weeks clen,2weeks eca,post cycle therapy, i'd go for doctari's pct if u can afford it,if not do pregnyl/ovidrel,clomid and letro,dont run kessar with this cycle as u may have progesterone gyno brought on from this so letro would be a good one.

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steroido
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16 Mar 2009 12:12 #10669 by steroido

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gr8, but why the inclusion of winstrol? pregnyl can be purchased here?

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16 Mar 2009 12:43 #10671 by Empire

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i edited your first post already about purchasing things off this site,this is not a store and this site doesnt supply anything other than information on the products themselves.

the inclusion of winstrol will just help dry u out and will add to the muslce building and hardening effect. i know 2 guys that have done that cycle and have dried out and and gotten stronger and had decent fat loss results with the right diet.

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Skyth
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16 Mar 2009 13:03 #10672 by Skyth

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steroido,
Busy on a winny, masteron, test prop and some fat burners that DJ recommended. He reckons I'm looking harder and more vascular.
I can't really see the diff because I have to look at the same body every day... you know how it is

But defiantly trying tren in my next cycle, once I've had a break and receptors/body is ready for another cycle.

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steroido
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16 Mar 2009 13:09 #10676 by steroido

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great. this looks like something worth trying out...so for fat burners i can use ephedrine? used it once before but somehow it makes me feel really light-headed and really thirsty. any alternatives?

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myotest1
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16 Mar 2009 14:20 #10681 by myotest1

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Hey dj!

Listen bra why do you say dont run kessar, i thought that would stave off any potential sides from eostrogen,

Thanks could you explain why?

Regards MYOTEST1

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superbeast2
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16 Mar 2009 14:46 #10682 by superbeast2

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kessar will make your nipples lactate, or at least that is what i read on the forum

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Empire
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16 Mar 2009 15:46 #10685 by Empire

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steriodo use clen or an ephadra based burner if u are extremely sensitive to ephadrine HCL

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16 Mar 2009 15:50 #10687 by Empire

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myotest1, Conan,one of the senior members on this forum brought to the fact up that with 19nor products u must not use kessar as it can accelerate progesterone gyno.there is more information to that if u search the forum,but Conan's knowledge is incredibly vast and i wouldnt ever second guess it so i wouldnt want any gyno problems so i'd rather stick to letro or arimidex. use kessar with anything other than 19nor substances such nandronlone or trenbelone as it can accelerate progesterone sides.

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16 Mar 2009 15:56 #10688 by Empire

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www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum?func=vi...d=2&id=1269#1548 that was the thread.

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16 Mar 2009 16:01 #10689 by Empire

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ok this is a direct quote from Conan on one of the previous strings...

because both the nandrolones and trenbolones have an affinity for progesterone receptors it is always better to use Clomid and not Kessar during PCT with these 2 products,in fact Kessar can make progesterone based gyno worse ,by acting as an estrogen to block the estrogen receptors it fools the body into thinking it has estrogen present and you need to have estrogen present for progeterone based gyno ,my advice would be to stop the Kessar and Clomid now and sort out the gyno problem with Arimadex and only then carry on PCT with only the Clomid.

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16 Mar 2009 16:09 #10691 by Empire

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Skyth wrote:

steroido,
Busy on a winny, masteron, test prop and some fat burners that DJ recommended. He reckons I'm looking harder and more vascular.
I can't really see the diff because I have to look at the same body every day... you know how it is
.

bud soon u gonna be able to hold a cigarette in those abs of yours...looking tip top brother...

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myotest1
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17 Mar 2009 21:18 #10736 by myotest1

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HEY DJEASY,

Thanks for the info its always good to hear all angles!
At the mo running tren 100mg eod, sust 250 3ml per week, prima 50mg daily, also pro viron 50mg daily, do you think that the proviron will be enough to combat sides from the oestrogen from the test by itself, stopped taking my kessar this morning!

:unsure:

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Empire
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17 Mar 2009 21:23 #10738 by Empire

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proviron should be cool,if u worried about the estrogen sides u could always keep a-dex or get some letro from the liquid-pharma site,if u are using 50mg of proviron u should be all good to go!

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myotest1
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17 Mar 2009 21:53 #10743 by myotest1

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Cool , will run pro viron throughout will let you know how it goes!
Thanks bra!ja this whole game is about experimentation as we are all individuals, sure you have to stick to the researched proven practises but sometimes you got to try a little this or a little that.

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jackrabbit1
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18 Mar 2009 06:35 #10746 by jackrabbit1

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Hey Myotest1, maybe just make sure if 50mg Proviron will be enough to prevent aromatization totally.
Read somewhere not to trust JUST Proviron.

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steroido
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18 Mar 2009 13:42 #10776 by steroido

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so proviron on its own is fine pct for the cycle given by myotest1 here?

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Empire
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18 Mar 2009 14:53 #10782 by Empire

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hell no not at all,proviron is fine for on cycle estrogen control,u need to get HCG, some clomid and some letro for your pct.HCG is ovidrel or pregnyl,what ever u can get your hands on is fine...

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Skyth
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18 Mar 2009 15:02 #10784 by Skyth

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djeasye wrote:

bud soon u gonna be able to hold a cigarette in those abs of yours...looking tip top brother...

Can I rather try hold a bar-one with my abs, as I don't smoke

Missing my weekly treats...lol

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steroido
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18 Mar 2009 15:10 #10786 by steroido

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so i need clomid, letrozole and hcg for the pct. pct is a bit of a new science for me & i dont want to start a cycle without 100% info.
do you have a schedule of dosages some sorts? how to use them properly and when

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Empire
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18 Mar 2009 15:40 #10790 by Empire

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well u can run it at 500iu's once a week from the start for less shut down,and then when u come off your cycle if using test prop 2 days later start with 500iu's 3 times a week for 3 weeks...look in the pct section for doctari's pct regime...

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steroido
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23 Mar 2009 09:28 #10939 by steroido

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not too sound like a know it all, but i been reading a bit and i found that most steroid writes think that nolvadex on its own will make pretty good pct for this cycle, and that hcg will only act in a synergistic fashion. i know that theory is usually divorced from reality but is there truth in this and can one use nolvadex alone for pct after a tren shutdown?

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23 Mar 2009 10:36 #10947 by Empire

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i am gonna go with no for this option, rather go large with your pct and use all the options available to get your body back to normal rather than missing something and battling to recover.

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steroido
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23 Mar 2009 10:43 #10948 by steroido

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great.thanks dj. and am i wise or just being silly if i prefer to stick to a test only cycle and proper pct. i mean, if i eat right and train hard, a test only cycle will work fine right?
or are there some diminishing returns i haven't considered?

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