Pct and gyno

Dumbell
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25 Jul 2012 10:49 #114748 by Dumbell

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Hi guys, please i need help.
I, going to use the following on a 8 week cycle:

Tren En 150mg per week
Test En 300mg per week
Deca 300 mg per week

I'm very prone to gyno , can i use proviron for this and how should i take it?
And what will be a good PCT for the above cycle?

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admin
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25 Jul 2012 12:07 - 25 Jul 2012 12:08 #114768 by admin

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Proviron will not be enough to prevent gyno if you are very sensitive to estrogen. Use letrozole at 0.3mg per day or every other day.

PCT 3 from here: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/downloads

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Dumbell
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25 Jul 2012 12:31 #114772 by Dumbell

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Thank you, so Clomid only PCT is not good enough?
But can i get some good gains on the cycle i want to use?
Also bearing in mind it will be the first injectable cycle for me

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Muscleaddict
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25 Jul 2012 12:36 - 25 Jul 2012 12:36 #114773 by Muscleaddict

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That cycle is a bad idea. Tren with Deca for a first cycle (or any cycle) is just looking for trouble and you will probably find it.

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KO
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25 Jul 2012 12:37 #114774 by KO

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Tren and deca in a first cycle is not such a good idea bud. I would suggest the beginner bulking cycle and save those compounds for at least your forth or fifth cycle

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KO
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25 Jul 2012 12:39 #114775 by KO

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Haha musleaddict u beat me to it

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Dumbell
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25 Jul 2012 12:41 #114776 by Dumbell

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Thanx, but being new to this can you tell me why it wil be not a good idea? And then what do you suggest i rather use?

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Pyroclasm
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25 Jul 2012 12:43 #114777 by Pyroclasm

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Really bad idea for a first cycle bud! It's a perfect example of what 'that big guy at the gym' will tell you. Quick Q: How do you know you are prone to gyno if you have never injected?

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Dumbell
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25 Jul 2012 12:50 #114779 by Dumbell

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Lol, i used dbol and superdrol together and my nipples killed me

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Muscleaddict
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25 Jul 2012 12:52 #114780 by Muscleaddict

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If you are running 3 steroids and your body has a bad response to something you won't know what is causing it. Deca and Tren both bind to the progesterone receptor causing prolactin gyno which is a bitch to treat. Testosterone should be run at a higher dose than deca to prevent deca dick. Tren will fuck with your moods even if you are the Pope and it can be very unpleasant with night sweats, insomnia. That should be enough reasons. Those doses are low but still - For your first cycle STICK TO TESTOSTERONE AND MAYBE AN ORAL KICKSTART.

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GregB1
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25 Jul 2012 12:55 #114782 by GregB1

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Go look at the top of the page under the downloads section you will see the beginners bulking cycle there rather listen to the advice you have recieved here and opt for the beginners cycle.

With hard work and dedication you can achieve anything!

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Dumbell
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25 Jul 2012 12:56 #114783 by Dumbell

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Ok cool I'll take your advise because it makes sense. Any suggestions on what and how to take it?

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Muscleaddict
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25 Jul 2012 13:03 #114786 by Muscleaddict

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Age/weight/body fat%/training experience/current diet ?

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Pyroclasm
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25 Jul 2012 13:06 #114787 by Pyroclasm

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You are going to learn more in the next week than most roids users learn their entire lives.

Go to the articles section and read the following:
-Testosterone
-Dianabol
-Turinabol
-Proviron
-Winstrol
-Anavar
-Steroid Cycle Basics
-Post Cycle Therapy
Then go to the Dieting Section and read all the stickies.
Report back when you have finished then we can have a leke chat. We first need to sort out your diet, then we will sort out your training, and then once you are comfortable with everything and you gain some consistency in your routine we can talk about AAS!

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Dumbell
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25 Jul 2012 13:08 #114788 by Dumbell

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Age: 28
Weight:70kg
Body Fat: 8%
Training for 12 months

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Dumbell
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25 Jul 2012 13:16 #114790 by Dumbell

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Thank you, i did read about those for the past 4 months and used dbol, anavar and anapolin. The dbol and anapolon causes a lot of water retention which i do not want because you just loose it again

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Pyroclasm
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25 Jul 2012 13:28 #114794 by Pyroclasm

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If that was the cycle you did then you didn't understand the articles. Firstly Anaps is EXTREMELY liver toxic and should be used cautiously by the most experienced AAS users only. Then you combine that with D-Bol, another very toxic substance and you are asking for it big time! Also the foundation of any cycle should be test which you did not do.

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KO
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25 Jul 2012 13:41 #114808 by KO

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In my opinion 12 months of training isn't enough....I'm sure u never even hit a plataue yet.

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Dumbell
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25 Jul 2012 13:44 #114811 by Dumbell

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I did not combine the dbol with anapolan. I used the anapolon with ZMA tribulis. And then after about 3 montht i used the dbol with superdrol. But i do get your point, i just dont want to use something and gain water

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Pyroclasm
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25 Jul 2012 13:48 #114814 by Pyroclasm

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Dumbell wrote: I did not combine the dbol with anapolan. I used the anapolon with ZMA tribulis.

Hahahahahahahahaha! :lol: That makes perfect sense! How long did you run the A-Bombs?

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gorilla
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25 Jul 2012 16:53 #114861 by gorilla

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Bro you should stay away from roids and read ALOT more...

You can reach 80-90kg naturally then you can think of doing a simple,humble cycle like...Not gonna tell you cos you shouldnt use roids!!

Please bro your fucking yourself up, you have used naps,dbol and var and what do you have to show?? 70kgs?

I was 49kg and worked my way up more than 70 without juice...So ya thinke before you hop on more gear...

For now, get yourself checked out by a docter and it seems youve got money to spend so click on the contact us button, email admin, ask for dj's email, mail dj, get a diet and youre good to go!

So thats:
1. Contact us
2. Mail admin
3. Ask for DJ
4. Mail DJ
5. Get diet
6. Get big while saving money!! No gear, no catches

Lets go!

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johnnyBolic
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15 Aug 2012 15:42 #118181 by johnnyBolic

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TOO Dumbell: Im glad in my day the steroids of choice where (Basic compounds)not all these drugs?peptide/Hgh/insulin and short,medium and long acting esters. I believe this is harmful to the psychological make-up of Novices looking to become competition ready in their 1st year.People get a gym membership and then they get some pills,or a 21gauge syringe.They dont even DEVELOPE their GOD given ability,let alone a sound plan of nutrition,with a High protein count,High complex carb,Plus their healthy omega 3-6 fats. In regards too gynocomasia.Adolescent boys are prone as a result of naturally high testosterone,also being overweight produces an increase in estrogen.I personally never had a problem with gyno,but now that im older i take 1mgs of arimedex eod. best of health johnny

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